tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post102644244413610829..comments2023-12-13T05:38:56.001-06:00Comments on Gray Matter: Patch 3.1 - Build 9658: Huge NewsGraylohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12928540421337175942noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-25085302191796122152009-03-17T11:40:00.000-05:002009-03-17T11:40:00.000-05:00Am I crazy for thinking that they could put "eclip...Am I crazy for thinking that they could put "eclipse (starfire)" and "eclipse (wrath)" on separate (but potentially longer to maintain balance) cooldowns? But keep them mutually exclusive so one wont proc while the other is active.beetlefeethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14433922811629493126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-17553075028382717892009-03-09T16:38:00.000-05:002009-03-09T16:38:00.000-05:00I understand what Graylo and others have said abou...I understand what Graylo and others have said about using Wrath to proc Starfire. But I have issues with it myself. When I cast Starfire at the beginning of my rotation, I feel like I am probably going to proc Eclipse in my first 3 casts. I then can get off prob 8-9 Wraths after that in the 10 sec of the proc (with Natures Grace). Also, if I have to move or get interrupted in the middle of a cast of Wrath, the most I can lose is about 1.2sec. If I am casting Starfire I could lose 2.4sec.<BR/><BR/>If I begin with Wrath I am probably going to have to cast 5-8 wrath before I proc Starfire. At that point, I get 3 casts of Starfire with the proc and if I have to move or get interrupted I'm screwed. Then its back to Wrath.<BR/><BR/>So either way for me both rotations are much more Wrath heavy, but with Starfire I proc sooner and lose less on interruptions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-62536705541721487352009-03-09T15:54:00.000-05:002009-03-09T15:54:00.000-05:00/facepalm Any Boomkin worth their gain of salt k.../facepalm <BR/><BR/>Any Boomkin worth their gain of salt knows that Starfire, not Wrath, is the superior DPS engine as things stand right now.<BR/><BR/>Graylo knows what he is talking about. Use Wrath to proc Starfire Eclipse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-22705012862400305782009-03-09T10:23:00.000-05:002009-03-09T10:23:00.000-05:00As it is now, Wrath is and will continue to be the...As it is now, Wrath is and will continue to be the supperior DPS engine for us. <BR/><BR/>Yes, it is less mana efficient, but WTFC's. <BR/><BR/>Use SF to proc Wrath and then go balls to the wall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-42203257126624003432009-03-07T18:44:00.000-06:002009-03-07T18:44:00.000-06:00If all this goes live your totally gonna have to r...If all this goes live your totally gonna have to redo all your math for everything.....<BR/><BR/>I am interested to see how everything will stack up with all these changes.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Madlarkin Hunter(Deathwing)<BR/>Veltan Boomkin (Deathwing)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-29161016621408515142009-03-07T18:29:00.000-06:002009-03-07T18:29:00.000-06:00WewtWewtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-10704407207191018452009-03-07T17:23:00.000-06:002009-03-07T17:23:00.000-06:00What annoys me is that Blizz seems determined to f...What annoys me is that Blizz seems determined to force moonkin into a zany rotation of alternating Wraths and SF's depending on proc. While this may seem fun to the game designers, it seems to ignore most raiders' desire to go for the highest DPS rotation, and goes against the implied rationale for offering Wrath and SF idols in the first place: namely that players can pick and choose which spell they favor for the situation.<BR/><BR/>The other changes are great, thanks for the update.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-25199412572349641792009-03-07T15:51:00.000-06:002009-03-07T15:51:00.000-06:00I'm iffy about improved FF. ugh! Would I put point...I'm iffy about improved FF. ugh! Would I put points there?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-25591504654489921902009-03-07T13:48:00.000-06:002009-03-07T13:48:00.000-06:00Feral FF works for our crit bonus.Although when it...Feral FF works for our crit bonus.<BR/><BR/>Although when its 5min, I'll be casting iFF anyway.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Trimeris (Nagrand)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-32792517441615137522009-03-07T13:39:00.000-06:002009-03-07T13:39:00.000-06:00Yay awesome news! So would we still be casting wra...Yay awesome news! So would we still be casting wrath until starfire eclipse? Also, was it ever decided on whether we had to cast faerie fire for it to work, or can any (especially feral, since we have a feral MT) faerie fire work?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02257116994452189132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-64033132015620434632009-03-07T02:41:00.000-06:002009-03-07T02:41:00.000-06:00Latest patch changes seemed to have a big target d...Latest patch changes seemed to have a big target dummy DPS boost, although it is hard to compare to 3.0.9 due to buffage from all the other people testing. The rotation usual wrath to proc SF eclipse seems smoother and works nicely with NG up essentially the whole resulting SF eclipse. Wrath eclipse seems to be similar DPS (Wrath was sitting at 1.0 s exactly for me), but I didn't do enough rounds to get absolute data. Overall with the 20% haste up a lot of the time, I would say this is a major DPS buff. Of course with all the expected movement in Ulduar - probably needed.<BR/><BR/>Yes, it felt nice. I hope this makes it to live.<BR/><BR/>5 min FF, I agree.. woooot. But I think the NG change makes me happiest.<BR/><BR/>Trimeris (Nagrand)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com