tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post2635392566852276747..comments2023-12-13T05:38:56.001-06:00Comments on Gray Matter: A Look at Pushback ResistanceGraylohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12928540421337175942noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-77199106077681765152009-11-10T16:47:31.543-06:002009-11-10T16:47:31.543-06:00As a Shadow Priest I have really come to love push...As a Shadow Priest I have really come to love pushback resistance. It makes "DPS Harder" a viable strategy for a shadow priest to deal with most situations since u can just pew pew through most anything.Ferthttp://www.hideyhole.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-8113633862678851852009-11-10T11:59:43.050-06:002009-11-10T11:59:43.050-06:00Most spells that deal raidwide damage these days d...Most spells that deal raidwide damage these days do not cause pushback. Parsing my logs from a recent raid (I'm not playing a moonkin, but casters will get more or less the same number of pushbacks) I took only 20 pushbacks in a little over an hour, and pretty much all of them were against Faction Champs. 70% pushback resistance would come out to the equivalent of about 0.58% haste, or just under 0.2% haste per talent point. If there were not a fight where taunt-immune melee characters chose random targets to attack, it would be a lot worse. I think being dismissive of pushback resistance is appropriate.Sthennohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05429676469805661834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-69478397801286250882009-11-10T11:53:27.844-06:002009-11-10T11:53:27.844-06:00I actually toyed with Owlkin Frenzy a bit on early...I actually toyed with Owlkin Frenzy a bit on early TOTC and actually quite liked the effect. Currently I have specced slightly differntly again however feel confident that switching over to Owlkin Frenzy may not be a bad idea, especially if under constant damage. The damage effect and mana regen is a nice additional side effect, considering it's effectively 10% of mana back when it procs. I believe I pulled points from mana regen to put into it for that reason.<br /><br />Graylo, any idea what damage precisely doesn't proc OF? I did some tests and didn't really find much that didn't proc it, even standing in a cooking fire seemed to proc it. It may be that they changed it and then rolled back the change.Aeiedilhttp://www.strayegg.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-59092343540269426612009-11-09T23:13:11.672-06:002009-11-09T23:13:11.672-06:00awesome blog! great post! Thanks for letting us kn...awesome blog! great post! Thanks for letting us know about it!team idemisehttp://idemiseleveling.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-49038320634642099842009-11-09T18:29:33.889-06:002009-11-09T18:29:33.889-06:00Calculations seem to assume that your base spell p...Calculations seem to assume that your base spell pushback reduction is 0%. On fights with damage that can cause pushback you are likely to have a paladin with Imp Concentration Aura, which provides 50% base pushback reduction. That should actually increase the value of the first and second point of Nature's Focus slightly.Randomsmohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04885979849576611558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-2314340011691340492009-11-09T16:21:22.703-06:002009-11-09T16:21:22.703-06:00I have been 2/3 Nature's Focus since they adde...I have been 2/3 Nature's Focus since they added 2% stats to IMotW. I couldn't agree more with you on this subject.<br /><br />A couple of things to note as well with IMotW VS Furor is that 4% Intellect is better than 2% Intellect and Spirit. The Stamina as Erdluf mentioned is nice but generally speaking Druid's do not lack survivability. I opt to spec into Furor myself.<br /><br />Also i'm not entirely sure if this is 100% reliable, but I have noticed that damage that causes knockback procs OF. It seems to be a good rule of thumb.<br /><br />This is by far one of the best subjects you've addressed, I enjoyed reading this one, short as it may be.Poromnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-60176157475853575282009-11-09T10:34:36.484-06:002009-11-09T10:34:36.484-06:00The dps balance in BC called for pushback to be a ...The dps balance in BC called for pushback to be a big factor in encounters. It was my impression that in WoTLK they wanted to move away from that. Thus why they made a lot of unavoidable damage not cause pushback. The current melee/caster balance seems to call for pushback being present, but not debilitating.<br /><br />Given this, I don't think we will see any unavoidable pushback in ICC. The amount of avoidable pushback is difficult to judge though.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08304331628722479024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-64023749858350611362009-11-09T10:02:28.938-06:002009-11-09T10:02:28.938-06:00@Anon1
Erdluf had a good point in my original pos...@Anon1<br /><br />Erdluf had a good point in my original post. DPS wise the two are very similar, but with Imp MotW you also get a little extra stam. Therefore, I would drop Furor before I dropped Imp MotW<br /><br />@Lissanna<br /><br />Owlkin Frenzy may also look more attractive in ICC, but you have to remember a couple of things. <br /><br />First, where are you going to take the points from? I only have two floating points at the moment and Gale Winds maybe important also. You never know.<br /><br />Second, the folks over at EJ have proven that not all damage will proc Owlkin Frenzy. So the question becomes will the damage we take in ICC proc it? If it doesn't then OF is no better then it is now.Graylohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12928540421337175942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-1607951364332942952009-11-09T09:47:38.335-06:002009-11-09T09:47:38.335-06:00I remember working really hard at some point to GE...I remember working really hard at some point to GET moonkin pushback resistance. However, I think what we get from Celestial Focus is fine right now. Starfire is more problematic than wrath, IMO. Also, if we are taking heavy raid damage, then owlkin frenzy starts looking a lot more attractive...lissannahttp://restokin.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-32687903926269459732009-11-09T09:44:50.436-06:002009-11-09T09:44:50.436-06:00and if we choose to take the talent int rtesto tre...and if we choose to take the talent int rtesto tree. which one should we drop? 2points in furror(4%int) or MoTW?<br /><br />any math there?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com