tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post3170428825678129203..comments2014-07-25T13:00:13.617-05:00Comments on Gray Matter: Balance Rotation: Take 3Graylohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12928540421337175942noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-16593428065110788152012-08-16T10:29:08.356-05:002012-08-16T10:29:08.356-05:00Dear Graylo,
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/the...Dear Graylo,<br /><br />http://www.thefreedictionary.com/then<br />http://www.thefreedictionary.com/than<br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-1799788859620606782012-08-14T23:59:36.855-05:002012-08-14T23:59:36.855-05:00Looking forward to what you have to say about the ...Looking forward to what you have to say about the even more recent changes, mostly the DoT duration reduction again.<br /><br />Related to the topics in this post, I think that it looks like we will be going back to no DoT clipping(especially with the nerf to eclipse a few builds ago) and I can't be happier. It was a pita mechanic and I'm glad to be done with it. <br /><br />I also am fairly sure that crit will be our main stat in MoP. It's looking to me that we will be reforging to a haste breakpoint and then going all crit after that.<br /><br />Always enjoyable to read your perspective on things.<br /><br />-TagTagartounoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-17411137689042744942012-08-14T08:07:40.676-05:002012-08-14T08:07:40.676-05:00Love your number crunching! Of course I am doing ...Love your number crunching! Of course I am doing the PvP thing and loving every bit of it in beta.Lufitoomhttp://www.lufitoom.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-43287959818541397292012-08-08T05:45:31.430-05:002012-08-08T05:45:31.430-05:00Int still gives crit. I just checked it myself on ...Int still gives crit. I just checked it myself on the beta server.<br /><br />It only gives an extremely small amount of crit, though. You need over 2000 int per 1% at level 90.Azraelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-33007283738920764232012-08-07T22:57:09.592-05:002012-08-07T22:57:09.592-05:00wow, this is a great post. the problem is that gai...wow, this is a great post. the problem is that gaining more crit rafting has no impact on the spells that would have crit without the additional crit rating<br /><a href="http://wow.farmer100.com/Buy-WOW-Accounts/" rel="nofollow"> where to sell world of warcraft accounts</a>hibbynana nahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03269078313336162659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-25360982960462324362012-08-07T22:53:33.179-05:002012-08-07T22:53:33.179-05:00wow, this is a great post. the problem is that gai...wow, this is a great post. the problem is that gaining more crit rafting has no impact on the spells that would have crit without the additional crit ratinghibbynana nahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03269078313336162659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-38102721928505503512012-08-07T07:34:37.496-05:002012-08-07T07:34:37.496-05:00The difference between cast times can be useful if...The difference between cast times can be useful if we have "on use" trinkets, that gives us +fix sp(instead of dmg%). We can earn(use the bonus dmg more often) if we are casting the faster spell than the slower one.<br /><br />If u cast SF every 2.7secs and the bonus dmg is active on every hit, then u can have 3x bonus-dmg with SF, but during the wrath the bonus number is 4x.<br /><br />Another reason - its more safe to use those trinkets with wrath in a "wasd" situations(pve/pvp).<br /><br />The difficult thing is to timing those :(<br /><br />Regards :)<br /><br />A.Andrewidanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-19370373344963576222012-08-03T11:56:51.304-05:002012-08-03T11:56:51.304-05:00@tuscalog
Yes and No.
Most of what you said is c...@tuscalog<br /><br />Yes and No.<br /><br />Most of what you said is correct but your not accounting for other factors as well.<br /><br />First off, The stat Crit Rating does not have any deminishing returns itself. For example in Cata 179 Crit Rating will always give you an additional 1% chance to crit if you start with a 10% chance or a 90% chance. However, the Value or Impact of Crit Rating has significant deminishing returns.<br /><br />Part of it is as you say that when you get more Crit Rating that increases the value of Haste and Mastery because you are doing more damage and that makes a little more mastery or haste better, but that's not the whole story.<br /><br />What you're missing is that Crit is a binary event. You either Crit or you don't. So gaining more Crit Rating only helps a portion of your spells. Here's an example.<br /><br />Lets say you have 0.00% crit chance and you cast 100 spells that do 100 damage each. I will also assume that Crits only double the damage to make the math easier.<br /><br />If you gain 1% of crit chance then 1 of the 100 spells would crit and your damage would go from 10,000 to 10,100 an increase of 1%.<br /><br />Now lets say you start with 50% chance to crit and you gain an additional 1% chance to crit. With just 50% chance to crit you would do 15,000 damage. By adding an additional 1% chance to crit you would do 15,100 for just a 0.667% increase in damage.<br /><br />The problem is that gaining more crit rating has no impact on the spells that would have crit without the additional crit rating.<br /><br /><b>So the deminishing returns isn't just that haste gets better when in increase Crit. It is also that Crit gets worse marginally when it is increased.</b><br /><br />Haste and Mastery also get worse marginally as they are increased, but their rate of decline is slower then that of Crit. That is why Crit has higher deminishing returns then the others.Graylohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12928540421337175942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-39428578390581196252012-08-03T08:50:26.879-05:002012-08-03T08:50:26.879-05:00> While I know some of you will bemoan the loss...> While I know some of you will bemoan the loss, but this is actually good for the value of crit since Crit Rating has very high diminishing returns<br /><br />AFAIK there's no diminishing returns on Crit rating. The issue is that there are no _increasing_ returns on crit: therefore, when you get 'free' crit, you will be less likely to get additional crit because that 'free crit' increases the marginal value of all the other stats.<br /><br />The point is not that crit gets less valuable the more crit you have, but that other stats get more valuable the more crit you have. That's generally true for all statstuscaloghttp://tuscalog.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com