tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post3670737954917430805..comments2023-12-13T05:38:56.001-06:00Comments on Gray Matter: The General Rules of RaidingGraylohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12928540421337175942noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-71656675754484533352010-05-25T14:12:35.067-05:002010-05-25T14:12:35.067-05:00Thanks for a wonderful thread, I just wanted to ad...Thanks for a wonderful thread, I just wanted to add some things Ive found extremly helpful to Moonkin raiding and by extention, raiding in general. First if all I use a Zboard for gaming on WoW, for anyone not familiar with the Z board it provides a directional keypad, 2 rows of numerical buttons (1-6) and (7-11) and various other keys all positioned to the left side of the keyboard giving you a mice, ergonomic gaming interface. <br /><br />That being said I bind my most important combat functions to the numeric keypad in this order<br />1. Starfall 2 FF 3. MF 4. Starfire 5. Wrath 6. ISS 7. Hurricane 8. Barkskin 9. Is a lockstone when available 10 varies between haste or Crit pots. 10. Health Pot. 11. Treants.<br /><br />I use Mouse 5 for Typhoon, Shift mouse 5 for Cyclone and alt Mouse 5 for Roots. I find that this setup works well for me, but really being successful depends more on being really familiar with your own keybinds then following anyone elses suggestion as to what keys you bind to.<br /><br />One thing I saw in a previous post that i disagree with was the comment made to unbind your strafe keys. Strafe is a very effective way to move quickly and still be able to keep some kind of DPS up on the boss.You never want to be facing away from the boss or moving longer then is absolutely nessessary. If nothing else, strafing allows you to refresh Dots and FF on the boss where as turning and running may not.<br /><br />And lastly since so much of our DPS is dependent on maximizing the bonus gained from Eclipse I storngly suggest a visdual proc warning addon, personally I use Power Auras classic,configured in a different color for both solar and lunar eclipse. it provides an excellent visual que for your eclipse procs and can be set up to show a duration timer to help you when deciding whether to refresh ISS during Solar eclipse etc.<br /><br />Sorry for the wall of text.<br /><br /><br />Lonelder - GnomereganAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-4989591826338033852010-05-04T22:39:31.845-05:002010-05-04T22:39:31.845-05:00"Then when you combine this with work, school..."Then when you combine this with work, school, and family obligations it is quite easy to get to a point where you are only sleeping 5 or 6 hours a night."<br /><br />That's a good night for me.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05190348041632464685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-80427682874267581602010-04-23T03:47:52.782-05:002010-04-23T03:47:52.782-05:00Practice learning new key binds in BGs.
Works li...Practice learning new key binds in BGs. <br /><br />Works like magic.Dougnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-48047053206417855722010-04-20T20:04:51.720-05:002010-04-20T20:04:51.720-05:00I didn't read through all the comments, but 2 ...I didn't read through all the comments, but 2 things I dont think you have mentioned are your computer, and your natural lag. <br />My computer (laptop) gets 3-5fps in 25mans, and i do 7k+. But in 10mans, when I can get 30fps, I top the charts with 10k+ dps. <br />Also because I live in Hawaii, and I play on a server with a 5 hour time different, my normal MS ranges from 250-400. Most people Q.Q about anything over 50. The natural lag does take its tole againts my dps. =(vozhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06728942283967908657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-64110298821854344752010-04-19T13:00:52.351-05:002010-04-19T13:00:52.351-05:00I find myself in the fundamentally flawed classifi...I find myself in the fundamentally flawed classification. We have other boomkins in my guild that can out dps me, despite my gear advantage. After running out of things to blame, I decided to take a throw back to highschool football and the game films. So i loaded up fraps and started recording all of the boss fights. I can then watch to make sure I'm casting as much as i think i am. Reacting well to eclipse procs and not running around like a chicken with my head cut of. Also you can uploaded it to youtube or something and share it with other people to see if they can help point out your mistakes. I'm still not living up to my potential but, but I'm getting better every fight.Josh Hollandsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11998845894080432781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-20860974874037735342010-04-19T11:07:10.446-05:002010-04-19T11:07:10.446-05:00By the way Graylo, what is your mouse that you use...By the way Graylo, what is your mouse that you use?<br /><br />It looks like in the body text you meant to link something but it doesn't work as a link for me :PGenaronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-34325407761040071082010-04-17T12:58:21.293-05:002010-04-17T12:58:21.293-05:00Hello, first time poster, long time reader.
My bi...Hello, first time poster, long time reader.<br /><br />My bindings are a bit different from what I see here. I stole the basic principle from a post on a forum somewhere; probably EJ.<br /><br />Mousewheel Up: Starfire<br />Mousewheel Down: Wrath<br />1: Treants<br />2: Treant /petattack macro<br />3. IS<br />4. Moonfire<br />5. FF<br />Q: Tranquility<br />E: Hurricane<br />R: GOTW<br />Shift-E: Innervate<br />Shift-R: Starfall<br />F: Barkskin<br />G: /target focustarget macro<br />Shift-F: War Stomp<br />Shift-G: Bomb belt<br />Z: Nature's Grasp<br />X: Roots<br />C: Cyclone<br />Shift-Z: Parachute cloak<br />Shift-Q: Ground mount<br />Mousewheel up/down+shift/alt or shift+alt: All of the druid forms<br /><br />I have my five basic heals on the bottom left actionbar- I don't bother binding them, clicking works well enough. Random pots, health stones, and mage food are on the bottom right actionbar, along with brez/rez and useless stuff like soothe animal and hibernate. The right actionbars have random junk like gear sets, mounts, and so forth.<br /><br />The basic idea behind this setup is that you're chain casting the two nukes for 90 percent of the time, and pounding the keyboard over and over gets very tiring. It's very easy to simply scroll the mousewheel down for solar and up for lunar, perfectly chain-casting the nukes with no delay and minimal effort. I saw a decent jump in my DPS when I first started doing it this way and a sizable reduction in fatigue.<br /><br />Starfall is a bit of a reach- I normally would bind a key ability like that to Q or something instead, but I use that like one of those fighter-pilot safety switches where you have to flip the cover up before hitting it. I absolutely do not want to hit that accidentally or without thinking about it first. I had a few bad experiences with it when I first went moonkin, if you can't tell ;).Caithnesshttp://@Medivhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-11322106132730680072010-04-17T03:54:20.850-05:002010-04-17T03:54:20.850-05:00Oops sorry for anonymous post, the Nostromo one wa...Oops sorry for anonymous post, the Nostromo one was me!Groknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-68155305304835470802010-04-17T03:30:14.125-05:002010-04-17T03:30:14.125-05:00Good post, some things to think about.
I have a q...Good post, some things to think about.<br /><br />I have a question, what is the cyclone macro mentioned in the key binding? Just paired with Natures Swiftness? <br /><br />Do you use that in PVE at all, Graylo?<br /><br />Thanks for the postDavidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-73038987534737524062010-04-17T03:26:20.365-05:002010-04-17T03:26:20.365-05:00A very nice post yet again Graylo. Keybindings are...A very nice post yet again Graylo. Keybindings are obviously so subjective. I am just about to transfer to a Nostromo to see if having the keys closer together helps my dps. If anyone feels they can share their set-up for a start for 10, then please feel free!<br /><br />One thing I've always been awful at is using my healthstone, but now I'll start thinking more carefully about this.<br /><br />Thanks for the post.<br /><br />GrokAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-39030910818102374012010-04-16T17:19:28.789-05:002010-04-16T17:19:28.789-05:00I'd just like to add that numbers aren't t...I'd just like to add that numbers aren't the most important thing. You can lose a lot of your effectiveness in the raid if you get caught up in your damage/dps. I recently caught myself blowing starfall on the ice blocks on Sindragosa to catch up on meters, when we were all easily able to break the blocks before she came down from air phase. The way starfall hits now, this was a fairly sizable waste of dps that could have gone to the boss. It was also giving me a false sense of confidence in my dps that eliminated a lot of the motivation to improve positioning etc. for that fight. I've since corrected myself. : ) <br /><br />Also my question is this: where can I go for perspective? I see where my dps stands in my guild, but how can I know what numbers I should be seeing. What should I be aiming for? I try to improve as much as I can, but I'm afraid I might miss something big just because I'm in my guild's top 3 on a fight and assume I'm fine.Jhardennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-11407896087321921962010-04-16T14:59:22.741-05:002010-04-16T14:59:22.741-05:00Could you show us a UI picture of your raiding in...Could you show us a UI picture of your raiding interface while raiding? Also with a Addon list of what you use for your interface enchantment.Twinmoon - Garroshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-58131735392634123442010-04-16T07:08:03.885-05:002010-04-16T07:08:03.885-05:00I don't know if anyone else is using one, but ...I don't know if anyone else is using one, but I picked up a Logitech G13 (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards/keyboard/devices/5123). It's expensive but has turned out to be worth every penny - I wouldn't like to play without it.<br /><br />Most of the keys I use as spells, but I bind tab to G8, Shift to G15, Ctrl to G20 and Alt to G22. That allows me to use tonnes of spells, and gives me the modifiers I need to click heal with grid.<br /><br />It takes a while to get used to it, especially using your left thumb to move after so many years of wasd, but now it means I'm using one digit to move, rather than 3. If you set it up to work like an fps - left and right are strafe and you use your mouse to turn, it becomes very easy to be mobile.<br /><br />It revolutionised my tanking, and boosted my dps by at least 25%.<br /><br />It takes a bit to get it all set up and to get used to it, but once you have you won't want to go back to a keyboard. I also find it much more comfortable as well - no more wrist ache after 8 hours solid play :PGetafixnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-81094257772519165482010-04-16T05:43:11.673-05:002010-04-16T05:43:11.673-05:00Great post. I have had the same issues when questi...Great post. I have had the same issues when questioned by fellow moonkins on improving their dps. The "Fundamentally flawed", as you put it, are the hardest to address so I usually end up drowning them with information and hope something clicks. :xAndreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07645170633209130099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-83703633451190038502010-04-15T17:10:59.728-05:002010-04-15T17:10:59.728-05:00I have tried making more advanced key bindings but...I have tried making more advanced key bindings but for me its comfortable to have the original keybinds.<br />1 typhoon<br />2 wrath<br />3 starfire<br />4 moonfire<br />5 starfall<br />Only addition I have made is my 2 side buttons on mouse.<br />M1 moonkin, shift+m1 bear<br />M2 cat, shift+m2 travel<br /><br />Instead I preplan and while casting starfire/wrath I have my mouse on Is/trees or IFF with the exception of IS is not so often casted spells.<br /><br />http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info15743-TargetForMe.html<br /><br />Thats an addon I found that I really love for targeting on every boss in wotlk.Xaktsarothnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-9102933395573241272010-04-15T16:54:22.221-05:002010-04-15T16:54:22.221-05:00Excellent post!
I think some people forget that i...Excellent post!<br /><br />I think some people forget that it is not all about having the right gear and rotation.eleneysenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-1204589948120854552010-04-15T16:26:59.541-05:002010-04-15T16:26:59.541-05:00I have to say that in the beginning I did not like...I have to say that in the beginning I did not like keybindings at all. I prefered clicking everythinh except 1-5 with my mouse. But now I'm quite satisfied with my bindings.<br /><br />Keybindings:<br /><br />1 = Wrath<br />2 = Starfire<br />3 = Moonfire<br />4 = Insect Swarm<br />F1 = Starfall<br />F2 = Treants/typhoon (depends on talents)<br />F3 = Hurricane<br />F4 = Faeri Fire<br />F5 = Moonkin Form<br /><br />Mouse Bindings: (Logitech Performance Mouse MX with 3 Thumb Buttons)<br /><br />M4 = Decurse ("Clique" on grid frame)<br />M5 = Abolish Poison ("Clique" on grid frame)<br />M4 = target next target<br />M5 = target focus target<br />Shift+M5 = set focus target<br />M6 = Barkskin<br />Shift+M6 = Fel Healthstone<br /><br />greetings<br />Nightedahs @Khaz'Goroth(EU)Nightedahsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-25135646797573084392010-04-15T15:10:02.130-05:002010-04-15T15:10:02.130-05:00I have personal experience with the sleep issue. M...I have personal experience with the sleep issue. My dps can drop more than 1k if I'm wiped out. Being tired also drastically reduces peoples' ability to react promptly to changes in the fight (you don't want half your raid to be more concerned about their proximity to their bed than their proximity to defiles, trust me).<br /><br />One thing I've noticed when new guildies ask me for help is that very frequently they know how to gem/chant/spec, but have no idea why. Clearly they've gone to most of the standard information sites, but only skimmed for the stat weights, etc. I'm still explaining to some people that glyphing Starfall actually makes sense nowadaysNeirinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01917370089215187221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-80324261472666181092010-04-15T11:57:43.316-05:002010-04-15T11:57:43.316-05:00Regarding key bindings, I tend to use ` (the backt...Regarding key bindings, I tend to use ` (the backtick to the left of the 1) through 5 and F1-F4 for everything. I then use shift modifiers to add additional abilities.<br /><br />` = trinket proc<br />1 = IS<br />2 = MF<br />3 = Wrath<br />4 = SF<br />5 = FF<br /><br />I also put my push-to-talk on my mouse, but I have a mouse button 5 to use for it.<br /><br />Mouse button 4 - innervate myself<br />Shift mouse button 4 - mount up<br /><br />Middle click - Autorun toggle<br />Shift+middle click - "Mouse look"<br /><br />I don't bind mousewheel because it's too easy to "fatfinger" it.<br /><br />(Sh = shift)<br />Sh+` = shift out of moonkin form<br />Sh+1 = treants<br />Sh+2 = Starfall<br />Sh+3 = Hurricane<br />Sh+4 = Typhoon<br />Sh+5 = Barkskin / healthstone macro<br /><br />F1 = Nature's grasp<br />F2 = Entangling roots<br />F3 = Cyclone<br />F4 = Hibernate (not really used much)<br /><br />The key is that it's all right there on my left hand.Duskstormnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-69105409909101231222010-04-15T11:40:58.351-05:002010-04-15T11:40:58.351-05:00I think I was the person who emailed Graylo about ...I think I was the person who emailed Graylo about the Muradins Spyglass :-S. I was amazed he haddn't got it yet as i had seen it drop dozens of times and had it on multiple characters.<br /><br />I totally agree with the DPS not being effected by solely by gear, spells, or talents. we have 2 other boomkins that raid one with a GS of 5960 and the other has only just broken the 5k mark but the latter ALWAYS does more dps. some people just have no idea and arent up for adviceUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11966231675912451338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-34240480605069835242010-04-15T10:16:10.083-05:002010-04-15T10:16:10.083-05:00This is a brilliant post, and well said.This is a brilliant post, and well said.pewterhttp://mentalshaman.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-74937622146154937632010-04-15T09:21:27.061-05:002010-04-15T09:21:27.061-05:00@Graylo
Sorry mate, I wrote the wrong thing there...@Graylo<br /><br />Sorry mate, I wrote the wrong thing there, I meant the turn keys not the strafe keys. So I made S and F strafe and unbound turn.Bradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06259908572238434909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-32289314916395212502010-04-15T08:46:48.305-05:002010-04-15T08:46:48.305-05:00One big part of always be casting that a lot of pe...One big part of always be casting that a lot of people don't understand is that you can remove much of the lag gap between casts by casting your new nuke a bit before the last one is finished casting. <br /><br />Especially for short nukes like wrath, this can be a huge dps increase. When I got my wife to install quartz and use its lag indicator for when to start mashing the next cast, her dps went up over 10% from that change alone.The Gnome of Zurichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03203965173625552516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-91698769180698517652010-04-15T08:00:31.803-05:002010-04-15T08:00:31.803-05:00@Brad
I disagree 1000% on unbinding your strafe k...@Brad<br /><br />I disagree 1000% on unbinding your strafe keys. You may find them unnessecary, but I've found them to be some of the most important buttons on my keyboard.<br /><br />In my opinion there is no better way for quick reaction movement for environmental hazards. Though it is a matter of personal preference.Graylohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12928540421337175942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-47682818152117899562010-04-15T04:40:28.669-05:002010-04-15T04:40:28.669-05:00I also found some add-ons can provide a tremendous...I also found some add-ons can provide a tremendous boost in the raiding environment:<br /><br />1- A decent cast bar (I use Quartz) which fits in with the always casting philosophy<br /><br />2- Cooldown timers for Eclipse etc (again I use Quartz) so as to optimise your Eclipse uptime for significant dps boost<br /><br />3- Deadly Boss Mods - because you don't do much dps if you are dead!Genaronoreply@blogger.com