tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post4714877017741578238..comments2023-12-13T05:38:56.001-06:00Comments on Gray Matter: Moonkin Tools: WrathcalcsGraylohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12928540421337175942noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-72303954936892999692009-10-05T21:45:46.579-05:002009-10-05T21:45:46.579-05:00Graylo,
I've been a long-time reader and I re...Graylo,<br /><br />I've been a long-time reader and I really can't thank you enough for your passion and dedication! <br /><br />I will keep searching and see if I can somehow figure it out for myself, but I have a a couple questions that really calls for that awesomely moonkin mind of yours:<br /><br />I'm in the happy circumstance of having 3 pieces of trophy T9 gear (Shoulder, Chest and Pants) and 2 pieces of T8.5 (Gloves, Helm). It seemed to make sense to give up the 4 pc 8.5 bonus. The question I have is at what point (if ever) does it make sense to give up the 2 pc T8.5 for the 4pc T9? Ever? Is there/what is your favourite distribution of 8.5/9 pieces?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-34095209057327363962009-10-01T17:49:03.185-05:002009-10-01T17:49:03.185-05:00In my experience, the main problem with Wrathcalcs...In my experience, the main problem with Wrathcalcs is that you can't run it without a full version of Excel.<br /><br />I only tried it once, but OpenOffice, Google Docs, and the free (Read-Only) version of Excel all choked. On the other hand, programs like Rawr and Simcraft... I can use them. Hell, anyone with a PC can.<br /><br />Rawr and Simcraft can be daunting to use, but they don't have the same availability problem presented by Wrathcalc.QuestionChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02941191259968297136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-46394554185183814032009-10-01T08:42:23.429-05:002009-10-01T08:42:23.429-05:00Perhaps a useful reference:
http://code.google.co...Perhaps a useful reference:<br /><br />http://code.google.com/p/simulationcraft/wiki/FormulationVsSimulation<br /><br />No new information, but reasonably concise.Nathaniel Hieterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14064842043808254080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-4069966339076985172009-09-30T21:15:41.119-05:002009-09-30T21:15:41.119-05:00I personally prefer simulation over formulation, b...I personally prefer simulation over formulation, because most of the questions I want answers to are better served by that method. But this kind of tool can certainly be useful.<br /><br />As you said Hamlet, it really depends what kind of questions are being asked. It also helps to use several different tools as a method of cross checking each others results to make sure they make sense.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08304331628722479024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-73265203096288008832009-09-30T17:43:20.053-05:002009-09-30T17:43:20.053-05:00I am not really handy with excel files. When I try...I am not really handy with excel files. When I try open this I get an error rougly translated "cant open "name of file" the document is encoded against writing"<br />I click ok then excel starts up and I have to choose among a long list of files and if I open any of them I get loads of spelling errors and it feels like I can only see half of the spreadsheet after all errors been ignored.<br />Tried to open the "character sheet" that was the first option now and got 191 errors.<br />Only reason I never really looked into excel stuff cause I never managed to open themXaktsarothnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-10926074309415801382009-09-30T11:57:29.232-05:002009-09-30T11:57:29.232-05:00@Hamlet
Good points.
I intended to include a com...@Hamlet<br /><br />Good points.<br /><br />I intended to include a comment on the Marginal values in the Character Sheet but missed it. I will correct the oversight. <br /><br />However, like I did say in the post I would like to see some explanation of the marginal value fields on the Character Sheet tab. The Marginal Value of talents in particular can be a little misleading. Those values seem to be a combination of two calculations. If you have zero invested it shows you how much one point would be worth, or if you have points invested it shows you the value of your investment. It’s probably more trouble then its worth, but it would be nice to see the value of your investment and the value of additional point.<br /><br />I also agree with your comments on Simulation. The Statistical variance can be a big issue, and my mis-valuation of Haste is a good example of that. I was going to cover those issues a little more closely when I got to SimCraftGraylohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12928540421337175942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-7333195042761007872009-09-30T10:47:23.815-05:002009-09-30T10:47:23.815-05:00Tink: I actually update the spreadsheet in Excel 2...Tink: I actually update the spreadsheet in Excel 2008 for Mac (currently version 12.2.1).<br /><br />---<br /><br />I should probably write up a better description of how it works--I'll probably at least a brief summary into the TTT post.<br /><br />For now though, you omit one of the main advantages of WC; the marginal stat values on the front page. I think that's actually the main advantage of an analytical approach over a simulation-based one. Because there's no variance in the results, you can see the advantage posed by a gain of, say, 1 spellpower very easily. The front page of the sheet shows how much DPS you stand to gain or lose by picking up every talent or stat. The second page also shows how spellpower, haste, and crit affect the DPET of all of your spells.<br /><br />Simulation-based approaches have an advantage in that you can avoid some of the assumption that are necessary in an analytical model. This can make them better for large-scale comparison of spell rotations. But for accurate computation of marginal stat values, the analytical approach avoids all of the statistical problems inherent in trying to find the difference between two nearly-equal values. This makes it most useful for evaluating stats talents for the purpose of weighing gear or other tradeoffs.Hamlethttp://elitistjerks.com/f47/t66856-moonkin_pve_dps/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-35555482360419308762009-09-30T04:08:51.210-05:002009-09-30T04:08:51.210-05:00@Tink
You should be able to load any excel spread...@Tink<br /><br />You should be able to load any excel spreadsheet using OpenOffice, which is free, and works on any mac.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08304331628722479024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-44655467517034322382009-09-29T17:45:09.058-05:002009-09-29T17:45:09.058-05:00Wauw Graylo Nice job! I am definitely looking forw...Wauw Graylo Nice job! I am definitely looking forward to your review on Rawr since i mostly use that for quick gear checks when deciding for a need or greed :)Boukevhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13126846810360826781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-60135069483665545162009-09-29T15:16:00.897-05:002009-09-29T15:16:00.897-05:00Sucks that it lacks mac support though. Altough i ...Sucks that it lacks mac support though. Altough i guess all the "tools" have that in common. ><<br /><br />ps. If anyone have a way to make it work in osx, please tell me. ds.TinkTink@EU-Neptulonnoreply@blogger.com