tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post6761281754477090143..comments2023-12-13T05:38:56.001-06:00Comments on Gray Matter: Patch 3.2: The New EclipseGraylohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12928540421337175942noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-80905649717081895402009-06-25T13:59:39.476-05:002009-06-25T13:59:39.476-05:00Lo and behold, Mimiron is nerfed :DLo and behold, Mimiron is nerfed :Dninnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-63563341116777945262009-06-25T04:23:07.822-05:002009-06-25T04:23:07.822-05:00fight length 14 min 30 seconds.
Blessing of the Mo...fight length 14 min 30 seconds.<br />Blessing of the Moon Goddess uptime 14min 25 seconds.<br /><br />270 dot ticks<br />BotMG refreshed 206 times.<br /><br />procrate would seem to be REALLY high so hopefully their goal is that this is passive buff if one just bothers to keep moonfire up.rinkunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-31215254731189223602009-06-25T03:56:49.506-05:002009-06-25T03:56:49.506-05:00the idol has like 30-40% procrate without internal...the idol has like 30-40% procrate without internal cooldown. did a 6 minute test on heroic dummy and the effect never dropped down.<br /><br />eclipse doesnt seem to work yet.<br /><br />ill try to do a longer (15-20min) test with combatlog to determine the actual procrate.rinkunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-27853728694348495152009-06-24T13:55:16.396-05:002009-06-24T13:55:16.396-05:00Just to let you guys know, I have post coming out ...Just to let you guys know, I have post coming out soon with my reaction to the new information. I'm just waiting on some numbers to make me more confident in my thoughts.<br /><br />@Nin<br /><br />That was my second thought. It has to be a Placeholder.<br /><br />@Hamlet<br /><br />I calculate my IS number a little differently than you have listed. I applied the spell coeffecent as you indicated I need to a while back, and I didn't apply as many of the universal buffs. However, I will take another look at my numbers to make sure they are correct.Graylohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12928540421337175942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-75349085635587183322009-06-24T13:06:04.658-05:002009-06-24T13:06:04.658-05:00It's a typo; already been tested on PTR.It's a typo; already been tested on PTR.hamlethttp://elitistjerks.com/f73/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-65072431335829391802009-06-24T12:24:35.893-05:002009-06-24T12:24:35.893-05:00MMO is reporting that Balance of Power has been re...MMO is reporting that Balance of Power has been reworded since the patch notes first hit. It now reads that both OUR chance to hit and our chance to BE hit is 3/6%. Suddenly we're getting an extra 2% hit from talents.<br />I'd think this is a typo amidst the confusion of patch news but if not that's 52.6 hit we no longer need to gear for...Villainushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07357967095803324086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-47867175148032186822009-06-24T10:28:00.097-05:002009-06-24T10:28:00.097-05:00Yeah, I'm seeing around 7% against Patchwerk. ...Yeah, I'm seeing around 7% against Patchwerk. That's using a slightly low DoT-uptime rotation with refreshes only after Eclipses end. The difference between different DoT rotations might be negligible though; the opportunity cost of using DoT's more has increased now that there's no post-Eclipse phase.<br /><br />Another important point is that the 3.2 rotation is not only "easier" (it's not really hard currently to switch spells when SquawkAndAwe tells you to), but less susceptible to interruptions. You're more likely to have an Eclipse ready whenever you get back on target, which helps a lot and should amplify the DPS increase in practice on complex fights.<br /><br />Idol swapping isn't looking useful anyway, too small a gain for the lost DPS time.<br /><br />I'm not able to confirm your result on the IS Idol. It still looks quite a bit weaker than the Starfire one. What kind of IS uptime are you assuming? And to confirm, you should be seeing an increase of 121.2 damage per tick from the Idol with full buffs (374/5*(1.03)*(1.03)*(1.04)*(1.13)*(1.3)). That's a 60 DPS increase even with full uptime; it's odd if you're finding the Starfire Idol to be weaker than that.Hamlethttp://elitistjerks.com/f73/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-62982619235184860282009-06-24T10:17:58.246-05:002009-06-24T10:17:58.246-05:00Re: the 4T9 I think Adorielle has a very good poin...Re: the 4T9 I think Adorielle has a very good point, it does seem like a blanket placeholder for all the classes 4T9 sets. If that is the final design of the set bonus then I'll be very, very surprised. Blizzard has a pretty good trackrecord of designing set bonuses, and we players have a fairly mixed record of judging them prematurely :)ninnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-9705203896373983332009-06-24T08:37:45.767-05:002009-06-24T08:37:45.767-05:00@Tsunami
I just saw those changes this morning. M...@Tsunami<br /><br />I just saw those changes this morning. My first impresion is that the new Idol will be the best, but it does depend on the proc rate. The set bonuses don't wow me. I'll have to do the math on 2T9, but I can tell that 4T9 is underpowered just by looking at it. It is definately not worth dropping 2T8 for and I doubt the itemization can make up the difference.<br /><br />@Hotball<br /><br />First why do you doubt my valuation of crit? Second, we won't be using a lunar rotation when this idol is available. According to my model we will only be using SF around 48% of the time in a twisting rotation. And this new idol will affect about 86% of our rotation. Even more with 2T9. I think the new idol is very promising.<br /><br />@Tradyk<br /><br />Intersting, hopefully they can fix it.<br /><br />@Anon1<br /><br />My numbers assume 4T8, but exclude Heroism.<br /><br />@Johnny<br /><br />My numbers do include 2T8.<br /><br />@Nin<br /><br />I wouldn't be surprised if they nerf Mimiron's hard mode, but I'm not holding my breath.Graylohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12928540421337175942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-73910533513033806582009-06-24T07:20:53.983-05:002009-06-24T07:20:53.983-05:00I have actually, both our elemental shaman and sha...I have actually, both our elemental shaman and shadow priests are well represented on the top list of reported results. It does not take a genius to see how reliant shadow priests are at using mind sear to achieve good results, which is why I specifically said single target. <br /><br />If you look at specific results in hard modes where single target damage is relevant, ie damage to Steelbreaker, XT heart or XT himself you will see how moonkins score way better than priests, and mostly on par with elementals for the same encounters. This is fairly consistent through many, many of the top parses. <br /><br />This is not extremely relevant to the topic however.ninnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-45019090501972451462009-06-24T06:08:59.333-05:002009-06-24T06:08:59.333-05:00"With little to no buffs for elemental shaman..."With little to no buffs for elemental shaman and shadowpriests, I don't see how we wont leave them in the dust come 3.2 on single target content."<br /><br />Apparently you haven't raided with very many good elemental shamans or shadow priests :-(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-29114591712606613742009-06-24T04:42:33.407-05:002009-06-24T04:42:33.407-05:00I expect a serious nerf to Mimirons hardmode befor...I expect a serious nerf to Mimirons hardmode before 3.2. Otherwise there will be an exceptionally low amount of those proto-drakes around. <br /><br />I'm surprised that we are considered as "a little low" on damage in current content. Compared to melee, sure. With little to no buffs for elemental shaman and shadowpriests, I don't see how we wont leave them in the dust come 3.2 on single target content.ninnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-47833024415605659922009-06-24T03:54:58.041-05:002009-06-24T03:54:58.041-05:00i just read that you are expecting roundabout a 6 ...i just read that you are expecting roundabout a 6 % damage increase for the owls. Does that include the t8 2piece set bonus ? or do balance druids get additional benefit of it?Johnnynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-13323351939809573902009-06-24T02:38:11.378-05:002009-06-24T02:38:11.378-05:00Just to update, the idol has no internal cooldown,...Just to update, the idol has no internal cooldown, currently, on the PTR. Expecting this to change though.Tradyknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-854011209650790942009-06-24T02:37:50.497-05:002009-06-24T02:37:50.497-05:00Are the numbers on the idols considering Starfire ...Are the numbers on the idols considering Starfire spam during heroism and tier-8 4pc Starfire procs? I would assume the Starfire idol will still win out if you factor in those two cases.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-70943278744915521672009-06-24T02:34:55.576-05:002009-06-24T02:34:55.576-05:00Graylo, just thought you should know, I was just o...Graylo, just thought you should know, I was just on the PTR, testing the new eclipse out, and is currently not working.<br /><br />Easy enough to test, proc eclipse using wrath, keep spamming SF, once the buff wears off, you won't get the buff when you crit with SF.<br /><br />Also, the new MF idol does work, and is surprisingly useful. Gives about 4% crit, haven't had time to work out it's % proc chance or internal cooldown yet, still working on that. From the looks of it though, the % chance is fairly high.Tradyknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-72884479231119850452009-06-24T02:00:46.961-05:002009-06-24T02:00:46.961-05:00"Who would have thought the IS idol would com..."Who would have thought the IS idol would come out ahead?"<br /><br />I did! :DRaysanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-56702572062631947142009-06-24T00:08:48.053-05:002009-06-24T00:08:48.053-05:00I'm a bit skeptical. If using 1 spell = 0.75 c...I'm a bit skeptical. If using 1 spell = 0.75 crit (an overestimation already), 200 crit is roughly about 150 spell. That's already inferior to current shooting star idol. Of course, shooting star idol works only for star fire and that's probably account for 50% ~ 75% total damage for a Lunar rotation. That means the new idol better have at least 50% ~ 75% up time to compensate. If there's no internal cd, then the proc rate should be at least 30% for 75% up time, and 16% for 50% up time.Hotballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04496235628696610280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-28605226134306730802009-06-23T19:03:54.696-05:002009-06-23T19:03:54.696-05:00Looking forward to your comments on the new Idol =...Looking forward to your comments on the new Idol =)<br /><br />Druid T9 Balance Relic (Moonfire) (Class: Druid) -- Each time your Moonfire spell deals periodic damage, you have a chance to gain 200 critical strike rating for 12 sec.<br /><br />It will entirely depend on its uptime, but seems like it will solve the problem of Idol switching \o/<br /><br /><br />Also looking forward to seeing what the new tier pieces look like on itemisation, 4 set is certainly a lot weaker than the 4 set from tier 7 :/Tsunamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12790877111158773739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-602564551925312682009-06-23T16:52:25.336-05:002009-06-23T16:52:25.336-05:00I like you, am still in shock about 3.2. It left ...I like you, am still in shock about 3.2. It left me disgruntled for several days - my fiance commented on it, it was so pronounced.<br /><br />It's unbelievable that they are pushing new content on us so quickly.Negathlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00102603036116849711noreply@blogger.com