tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post7835269125433986673..comments2023-12-13T05:38:56.001-06:00Comments on Gray Matter: Patch 3.1 - Build 9684: Set BonusesGraylohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12928540421337175942noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-35050244331367305722009-03-20T03:56:00.000-05:002009-03-20T03:56:00.000-05:00I was QQing about this very thing today on test re...I was QQing about this very thing today on test realm forums -- did the match comparing T7.5 with T8... and currently they've itemized T8 so badly that there's at best a 1.5% increase in dps for the tier jump... (ok there's more hit for the tier jump but we're already swimming in hit)...... .... the set bonuses would have to be really good to make all those pieces worthwhile..... otherwise I'll stick with 213 gear for a long time or get all 226 gear to replace all of it.. we'll see how it works out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-56321649990828454042009-03-19T15:59:00.000-05:002009-03-19T15:59:00.000-05:00"2P Ulduar set bonus -- we increased the Eclipse b..."2P Ulduar set bonus -- we increased the Eclipse boost to 15%, which should actually grant a dps increase.<BR/><BR/>We know many druids still don't like the inherent RNG that Eclipse offers. However, we like mechanics that encourage players to dynamically (meaning if they pay attention) swap which spell they are using. Balance has often had a real tunnel-vision problem of just using the same spell over and over. Even mages do that less these days with all the other procs and cooldowns they can blow at certain times. Eclipse did have some problems, particularly with the Wrath part of the talent not actually doing enough, but we believe those are in a better shape now."<BR/><BR/>GC just commented on the DPS forums. I thought it funny that he basically used your info straight up.<BR/><BR/>-GnomeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-30354564066371298172009-03-19T11:49:00.000-05:002009-03-19T11:49:00.000-05:00It's pretty obvious how overwhelmingly bad the 6% ...It's pretty obvious how overwhelmingly bad the 6% during eclipse is. With the nature's grace change, we only need to have as much crit during an eclipse proc to crit once every 2 starfires. Since we get so much crit from eclipse already, it becomes worth less (not worthless) to keep adding crit. It would make more sense to add a percent damage to starfire maybe, and maybe a crit% to wrath. The reason why the 4piece tier 7 is so nice is that, well, not only during eclipse and out of eclipse, is that (At least we will when patch comes) the crit is needed more outside of eclipse. As for the insect swarm, I'd assume this would only be worth it if it had a near 100% chance and it had a internal cooldown of the duration of the spell. Getting one-two instant cast starfires in during eclipse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-2477443561493658032009-03-18T13:41:00.000-05:002009-03-18T13:41:00.000-05:00Wow. Really hoping Bliz reconsiders this. From ...Wow. Really hoping Bliz reconsiders this. From a business perspective (aka keep-the-players-hooked), I'd imagine they'd have to reconsider after reviewing your math, which is astute as always. Can't believe they didn't see this themselves. Even without going into the math in depth, its pretty clear these bonuses kind of blow. Nothing like offering your players a downgrade to make them not-so-enthusiastic about trying<BR/><BR/>Tsunamee - Firetree/USAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-46091887826976618202009-03-17T17:50:00.000-05:002009-03-17T17:50:00.000-05:00I've let my guilds' mages know their tier ...I've let my guilds' mages know their tier tokens will be cheaper when 3.1 arrives :)<BR/><BR/>It really bothers me blizz seems so ignorant of their own design flaw in our set bonuses.. We're basically balanced around our t7 set bonus now, how are we supposed to compete in any way from Ulduar on?<BR/><BR/>durid <3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-29836760664203479742009-03-17T08:17:00.000-05:002009-03-17T08:17:00.000-05:00I can confirm that our Idol(along with other relic...I can confirm that our Idol(along with other relics) can be bought from the vendor in Dal. I even have screen shots :)<BR/><BR/>http://virtual-progression.com/forum/index.php?topic=1061.0Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-55227805856582508232009-03-14T22:55:00.000-05:002009-03-14T22:55:00.000-05:00The idol of the shooting star (moonkin), Idol of a...The idol of the shooting star (moonkin), Idol of awakening (resto), and idol of worship (feral) are all up on the PTR badge vendor for 25 emblems of valor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-79399232671086689852009-03-14T16:27:00.000-05:002009-03-14T16:27:00.000-05:00It's not just about the T8 stats balancing out to ...It's not just about the T8 stats balancing out to what we have now... it should be about improvement. A higher tier SHOULD be offering a more valuable set bonus, if only marginally.<BR/>I'm hoping these proposed numbers in the T8 bonuses are starting values and when blizzard realizes their poor math skills, will rethink the notion.<BR/>Also, you didn't touch on the 4-piece bonus. It's obviously a nice buff to casting times, but I can only see it really benefiting a rotation during the eclipse buff or the 3-4 starfire casts following one. I can't see myself interrupting my wrath spam to proc eclipse just cause my IS has proc'd the buff. I'd risk getting the wrong eclipse...<BR/>The description for the (4) bonus is also grammatically incorrect. It currently reads "within until cancelled." It seems like it should read "within X SECONDS OR UNTIL cancelled." This means they've left it out until they determine a correct length of time.Villainushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07357967095803324086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-78137329995469510492009-03-14T16:22:00.000-05:002009-03-14T16:22:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Villainushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07357967095803324086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-47734176772325561372009-03-14T10:15:00.000-05:002009-03-14T10:15:00.000-05:00Wow, compared to the resto druid set bonuses, the ...Wow, compared to the resto druid set bonuses, the boomkin one's *do* seem pretty lame. <BR/><BR/>We get a buff to our swiftmend ability (2 piece bonus) and an insta-tick rejuv (4 piece bonus), both of which are awesome.Avernahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05745045119122468517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-5458478917461952592009-03-13T16:35:00.000-05:002009-03-13T16:35:00.000-05:00Those set bonus' do seem rather lame. Sigh. Thank...Those set bonus' do seem rather lame. Sigh. Thanks for the math Graylo. Oh, and that Idol thing...I did an angry dance. I did over 3 months of that crappy Dungeon for that Idol. <BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Faeker of KargathAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-66215283080675269992009-03-13T12:20:00.000-05:002009-03-13T12:20:00.000-05:00I feel blizzard needs to either make all idol/reli...I feel blizzard needs to either make all idol/relic type objects buyable or make them all drops. I don't like how some specs can buy their best one while others sit and wait for a drop.Phil Jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16617169205395145946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3232240169123589462.post-57196894121623727552009-03-13T11:56:00.000-05:002009-03-13T11:56:00.000-05:00Wow such underwhelming results. Yes it does feel ...Wow such underwhelming results. Yes it does feel like T5 - T6 again. GG Blizz for not using Graylo as your math dude. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for the intial math. Keep up the good work and spreading the word of the moonkin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com