PLEASE NOTE: The list DOES NOT currently include Heroic gear or Arthas gear from ICC. It will be added at a later time. However, I think it is safe to assume that if the Normal item is BiS or near BiS on this list then the Heroic item will be as well.
Update 2: I've corrected the errors you guys spotted. Thanks for the help. I've also updated my valuation of the Nibelung. I know think it is BiS.
Update: I've corrected the issue with how gems were valued, and I've also changed the way the list is sorted. It is now sorted by the value that excludes hit.
ICC is here and as usual everyone wants an updated gear list. I am happy to provide it, but please read over the sections below before looking at the lists. The comments I make here should answer a lot of the questions you may have.
Once again Cowtarus on Stormscale-US helped me out in producing this list. He did all of the data entry for the new instances saving me a lot of time and sanity. So if you appreciate the existence of this list please send him thanks as well. I know I appreciate it.
Once again, I’ve had to make some changes in how I build the list.
- Names: The list will only include the Alliance names for the ToC gear. I apologize if anyone has a huge problem with that, but you’re going to have to deal with it. I will not be producing a separate Horde list. At this point in time you should already know what gear you want out of ToC and ToGC. If you don’t, the old lists should be ok for helping you find the available gear.
- 2. Purges: I’ve dropped a lot of old items from the list, but I tried to do it in a systematic way, with a few exceptions. My basic goal was to drop all entry level gear, and I used a few basic rules to identify them. All entry level crafted gear was dropped. All 5man gear was dropped except for the items from the new ICC 5mans. All gear from Naxx, Sarth, and Malygos was dropped. In fact, I am concidering dropping the Ulduar gear when I update this list with the heroic items. If you have a strong opinion on this please leave it in the comments.
As I said above there were a couple of exceptions that I still included despite falling into one of that categories above. I think all of the exceptions were trinkets. That said, I did drop some nice items from the list that are better then what you find in the higher level instances. If this is really a big deal for you I suggest looking at some of the old lists to find what is available.
A few comments:
- This list is a tool, not a blue print for how to gear. I’ve never intended these lists to be the definitive guide on how to gear a raiding moonkin. I don’t want to see any comments anywhere that say “item X is the best because it’s ranked number one on Graylo’s list.”
- The use of this list requires some thought. It is a general ranking intended to give you an idea on how items relate to each other.
Please realize that these values are estimates based upon my gear level. Two items with a similar value, can be assumed to be relatively equal. Also, realize that if you are at a different gear level then me, you may value the stats differently. I highly suggest you look at this post to determine how you value stats and weigh your options accordingly.
- It is up to you to manage your Hit, Haste, and Crit caps. Do not take every number one item on the list.
- These rankings are purely based upon DPS. Yes, Stam and Mp5 have value, but there is no way to directly translate them into DPS. By the same token Intelligence and Spirit have both mana and DPS benefits, but only the DPS is considered.
- Procs are particularly hard to quantify. Trinkets and other items that have procs or on use abilities are estimated in the list. However, it is likely that some of them are wrong given that we know very little about some of the procs. I will update them if I can, but I make no guarentees.
- To rank these items I used the following weights Hit Rating - 1.9785, Spell Power - 1, Haste Rating - 0.5317, Crit Rating - 0.7571. These weights assume a high level of ToC Gear. It also assumes your are at or above the Haste Cap. If you're below the haste cap, haste will be more valueable to you. If you're above the Crit Cap then Crit and Haste will be relatively equal.
- I assume that all socket bonus will be met using Eqic quality gems. This is how I socket each gem: Meta = [Chaotic Skyflare Diamond], Red = [Runed Cardinal Ruby], Yellow = [Potent Ametrine], Blue = [Purified Dreadstone]. Yes, ignoring socket bonus will improve some of the items. However, the shifts would be small and it's easier manage this way.
Black - DPS stat ranking
Red - DPS stat ranking minus Hit rating
I am sure that the Tier gear will rule the day, and probably in all of the 5 tier spots. Our tier gear is so well itemized that it is unlikely we will want to replace any of it unless Arthas has some truly awesome gear.
In this particular case the tier legs are a sure bet to be in almost everyone’s BiS lists. Alliance moonkin only need 3 items to reach the hit cap with Heroic gear, and can get close enough with 3 pieces and 2 Veiled gems using 25man gear. Since the legs are one of the items with hit on them it is likely to be an automatic choice. That said, a couple of people have made some good arguements why you might go a different way in the comments.
The tier helms are a clear choice again. Even at the lower ilevels the Tier helms are better itemized then the other options at the same ilevel. Most of the other helms have spirit, and the ones that don’t have more haste or worse gems.
Pretty much the same thing I said for the head slot. The tier items are an easy choice because they are better itemized then the other options at all ilevels.
The tier set’s itemization wins again.
The tier gloves will be one of my first purchases because they are cheap and have Hit. They are a clear BiS choice for me, but Horde Moonkin may go for Gunship Captain's Mittens or Gloves of the Great Horned Owl if it helps them manage the Hit cap better.
|Death Surgeon's Sleeves||Rotface - 25||204.5||204.5|
|Bracers of Eternal Dreaming||Valithria - 25||204.5||204.5|
|The Lady's Brittle Bracers||Deathwhisper - 25||307.3||202.4|
|Bindings of Dark Essence||Twin Valkyrs 25 - H||269.9||184.8|
|Bracers of the Autumn Willow||Jaraxxus 25 - H||184.2||184.2|
|Armbands of the Ashen Saint||Anubarak 25 - H||182.6||182.6|
|Bejeweled Wizard's Bracers||Pattern from 25man||182||182|
|Bracers of Dark Blessings||Deathwhisper - 10||178.9||178.9|
|Moonshadow Armguards||Pattern from 25man||176.4||176.4|
|Wrists of Septic Shock||Festergut - 10||174.4||174.4|
|Royal Moonshroud Bracers||Pattern from 25man||172.2||172.2|
|Grasps of Reason||Flame Leviathan25 H||157||157|
|Bindings of Dark Essence||Twin Valkyrs 25||231.3||156.2|
|Bracers of the Autumn Willow||Jaraxxus 25||155.6||155.6|
|Armbands of the Ashen Saint||Anubarak 25||155.6||155.6|
|Felspark Bindings||Jaraxxus 10 - H||220.9||155.6|
|Ether-Soaked Bracers||Rotface - 10||230||150.9|
|Ghostly Wristwraps||Trash - H 5man||148.2||148.2|
|Shackles of the Odalisque||Razorscale25||139.1||139.1|
|Bindings of the Depths||Vezax10||133.5||133.5|
|Bracer of Worn Molars||Falric - H 5man||217.6||132.5|
|Runetouch Handwraps||Iron Council10||130.4||130.4|
|Bracers of the Broodmother||Razorscale25||127||127|
|Felspark Bindings||Jaraxxus 10||196.3||125|
|Wristguards of Subterranean Moss||Ick 5man||121.1||121.1|
|Bracers of Unleashed Magic||Kologarn25||186||114.8|
|Bindings of the Expansive Mind||Razuvious25||168.2||112.8|
|Grips of Chaos||Ulduar25||180.3||109.1|
|Combustion Bracers||Flame Leviathan10||164.5||101.2|
Ok, here is where the fun starts. We will probably have to pick up some spirit in this slot, but that is ok. Bracers of Eternal Dreaming are probably your best bet for several reasons. First, they are Leather. Second they have tons of Crit and no haste. These two facts make them unattractive to Clothies and Resto Druids. The fact that they have spirit makes them unattractive to Shaman and Paladins, so you should have relatively little competition picking these up. The Death Surgeon's Sleeves have the exact same stats, but I would pass them to a cloth. Both bosses should be fairly accessable.
|Belt of Petrified Ivy||60 EoF||303||303|
|Crushing Coldwraith Belt||Marrowgar - 25||295.2||295.2|
|Lingering Illness||Festergut - 25||283.8||283.8|
|Cauterized Cord||Putricide - 10||270||270|
|Circle of Ossus||60 EoF||268.3||268.3|
|Professor's Bloodied Smock||Putricide - 25||265.5||265.5|
|Belt of Omission||60 EoF||391.4||264.8|
|Cord of Pale Thorns||Twin Valkyrs 25 - H||255.5||255.5|
|Cord of the Tenebrous Mist||Northrend Beasts 25 - H||251.3||251.3|
|Cord of Biting Cold||Faction Champs 25 - H||363.8||249.1|
|Cord of Dark Suffering||Gunship - 10||245.9||245.9|
|Cord of the Patronizing Practitioner||Marrowgar - 10||234.7||234.7|
|Belt of the Winter Solstice||Jaraxxus 10 - H||230.4||230.4|
|Cinch of the Undying||Anubarak 10 - H||228.2||228.2|
|Cord of Biting Cold||Faction Champs 25||323.2||222.3|
|Cord of Pale Thorns||Twin Valkyrs 25||218.3||218.3|
|Cord of the Tenebrous Mist||Northrend Beasts 25||214.1||214.1|
|Cord of the White Dawn||Crafted H||207.9||207.9|
|Icehowl Cinch||Northrend Beasts 10 - H||327.9||207.2|
|Strip of Remorse||Halls Chest - H 5man||206.9||206.9|
|Belt of the Winter Solstice||Jaraxxus 10||204.1||204.1|
|Cinch of the Undying||Anubarak 10||203.6||203.6|
|Belt of Arctic Life||Crafted H||193||193|
|Braid of Salt and Fire||Ick - H 5man||182.7||182.7|
|Sash of Ancient Power||Crafted H||263.1||178.1|
|Belt of the Crystal Tree||Iron Council10 H||176.9||176.9|
|Icehowl Cinch||Northrend Beasts 10||287.6||174.8|
|Belt of the Living Thicket||Emblem of Conquest||172.6||172.6|
|Belt of the Dragon Matriarck||Razorscale10||172.1||172.1|
|Embrace of the Leviathan||Flame Leviathan25||171.9||171.9|
|Belt of the Sleeper||Ulduar25||171.3||171.3|
|Conductive Cord||XT-002 Deconstructor10||165.8||165.8|
|Belt of the Darkspeaker||Vezax25||262.9||152.1|
|Essence of Anger||Devourer 5man||230.1||141|
The Belt of Petrified Ivy is awesome for a couple of reasons. It is very well itemized and is purchasable with Frost Emblems. The down side is that it does not have a heroic version. If your guild is able to take down the heroic fights then you will probably replace it at a later date.
|Plague Scientist's Boots||Festergut - 25||295.2||295.2|
|Boots of Unnatural Growth||Gunship - 25||291.2||291.2|
|Sandals of Consecration||Crafting||280.3||280.3|
|Boots of the Unrelenting Storm||Northrend Beasts 25 - H||272.3||272.3|
|Blessed Cenarion Boots||Crafting||267.5||267.5|
|Boots of the Mourning Widow||Faction Champs 25 - H||265.5||265.5|
|Boots of the Frozen Seed||Deathwhisper - 10||259.1||259.1|
|Pale Corpse Boots||Blood Princes - 10||245.6||245.6|
|Icecrown Spire Sandals||Saurfang - 10||328.9||237.9|
|Boots of the Unrelenting Storm||Northrend Beasts 25||235||235|
|Footpads of the Icy Floe||Anubarak 25 - H||352.9||234.2|
|Sandals of the Silver Magus||Faction Champs 10 - H||326.7||233.7|
|Boots of the Grieving Soul||Twin Valkyrs 10 - H||232.7||232.7|
|Treads of the False Oracle||Yogg-Saron25 H||229.2||229.2|
|Boots of Fiery Resolution||Flame Leviathan25 H||227.4||227.4|
|Boots of the Mourning Widow||Faction Champs 25||214.1||214.1|
|Boots of Wintery Endurance||Crafted H||204.8||204.8|
|Savior's Slippers||Crafted H||199.8||199.8|
|Sandals of the Silver Magus||Faction Champs 10||277.8||198.7|
|Boots of the Grieving Soul||Twin Valkyrs 10||198.2||198.2|
|Footpads of the Icy Floe||Anubarak 25||312.6||195.8|
|Spellslinger's Slippers||Crafted H||195.6||195.6|
|Boots of Hasty Revival||XT-002 Deconstructor25||186.4||186.4|
|Prelate's Snowshoes||Tyrannus - H 5man||183.1||183.1|
|Sandals of the Ancient Keeper||Auriaya25||182.6||182.6|
|Boots of the Servant||Freya25||181.9||181.9|
|Treads of the Dragon Council||Yogg-Saron10||174.6||174.6|
|Sandals of Rash Temperament||XT-002 Deconstructor25||278.2||165.4|
|Barkhide Treads||Eadric's Cache - H||231.4||164.1|
|Ice-Steeped Sandals||Garfrost 5man||161.1||161.1|
There are some conflicting reports on how the Plague Scientist's Boots are itemized. That said the choice is like to come down to these boots or Boots of Unnatural Growth. My valuation has the Plague Scientist’s Boots being slightly better, but that may change the stats are different then what I used to calculate the value. You may also want to consider going with the Boots of Unnatural Growth because they are leather and it’s likely that no one else will want them. Even if they are a slight down grade in value, they are definitely a bargain.
|Jaina's Radiance||Tribute Chest 25 - H||242.2||242.2|
|Frostbinder's Shredded Cape||Valithria - 25||222.3||222.3|
|Bolvar's Devotion||Tribute Chest 25 - H||214.8||214.8|
|Drape of Bitter Incantation||Tribute Chest 10 - H||214.3||214.3|
|Volde's Cloak of the Night Sky||50 EoF||208.8||208.8|
|Shawl of Fervent Crusader||Tribute Chest 10 - H||190.3||190.3|
|Shawl of the Refreshing Winds||Northrend Beasts 25 - H||186.8||186.8|
|Greatcloak of the Turned Champion||Saurfang - 25||185.7||185.7|
|Cloak of Displacement||Faction Champs 25 - H||268.9||171.9|
|Flowing Sapphiron Drape||Onyxia25||167.1||167.1|
|Lich Wrappings||Valithria - 10||239.9||158.8|
|Shawl of the Refreshing Winds||Northrend Beasts 25||155.6||155.6|
|Drape of Mortal Downfall||Iron Council25 H||233.7||152.6|
|Pennant Cloak||Sartharion25 H||150.9||150.9|
|Drape of the Messenger||Algalon10||211.4||150.1|
|Sunglimmer Cloak||Algalon25 H||146.5||146.5|
|Fluttering Sapphiron Drape||Onyxia10||146.5||146.5|
|Cape of the Unworthy Wizard||Kel'Thuzad25||139.1||139.1|
|Cloak of Displacement||Faction Champs 25||237.8||138.8|
|Shawl of Haunted Memories||Yogg-Saron25||136.2||136.2|
|Sunglimmer Drape||Algalon25 H||128.4||128.4|
|Drape of the Spellweaver||Ulduar10||128.3||128.3|
|Cloak of the Dormant Blaze||Ulduar10||103||103|
As usual there are very few options at the back option. The ToGC tribute cloaks are still very nice if you have one, or if your guild is able to get the Tribute to Insanity achievement. Frostbinder's Shredded Cape is also very nice, but my guess is that we will see a lot of people wearing Volde's Cloak of the Night Sky since it is purchasable with emblems.
|Blood Queen's Crimson Choker||Queen Lanathel - 25||220.6||220.6|
|Wail of the Val'kyr||Twin Valkyrs 25 - H||207.6||207.6|
|Soulcleave Pendant||Saurfang - 10||198.5||198.5|
|Bone Sentinel's Amulet||Marrowgar - 25||192.8||192.8|
|Amulet of the Silent Eulogy||Gunship - 25||284||181.1|
|Wail of the Val'kyr||Twin Valkyrs 25||176.4||176.4|
|Pendant of Split Veins||Putricide - 10||253.6||164.5|
|Pendant of the Shallow Grave||Thorim10 H||161.4||161.4|
|Darkbane Pendant||Twin Valkyrs 10 - H||242.7||159.6|
|Arcane Loops of Anger||Devourer - H 5man||155.2||155.2|
|Sapphire Amulet of Renewal||Steelbreaker25 H||153||153|
|Watchful Eye||Steelbreaker10 H||144.7||144.7|
|Unblinking Eye||Iron Council25||142.1||142.1|
|Pendant of Fiery Havoc||Flame Leviathan25 H||232.8||141.8|
|Darkbane Pendant||Twin Valkyrs 10||212.5||141.2|
|Coil of Missing Gems||Devourer 5man||193.1||117.9|
|Pendant of Focused Energies||Ulduar Zone Drop25||193.9||102.9|
|Pendant of the Piercing Glare||Kologarn10||193.5||102.5|
Blood Queen's Crimson Choker is clearly the best option currently available, but expect a fight to pick it up. It is attractive to a lot of specs and classes. If you’re running the 10mans, the Soulcleave Pendant is very nice, or you may want to consider picking up one of the multiple spirit necks if you can do so cheaply.
Disclaimer: I urge you to view the trinkets with some level of skepticism. A lot of the trinkets have proc with unknown rates and cooldowns. Additionally, the trinkets that proc mobs to fight for you are hard to evaluate. Even the relatively simple trinkets probably won’t be used in the optimal situation. I accept that these valuations are some what mushy and you should consider that when making your choices.
Trinkets have become a real trouble spot for our itemization. They are a lot of fun generally but since they tend to focus on one stat and one proc they only make our Cap issues worse. If you keep that in mind you will understand why the ICC trinkets are less attractive then you think they should be.
Unless something great drops from Arthas, the two Reign Trinkets from TOC25 are likely to remain our BiS options. This is because they are awesome trinkets and have nothing to do with Crit, Haste, or Hit. Its possible that the heroic version of Muradin's Spyglass will over take the normal Reign trinket, but I doubt it will be true after we are past the crit cap. In short, run ToC25 and ToGC 25 as much as possible.
# The value of the Onyxia trinkets is the value of the set divided by 2. If you do not have the set, these trinkets are virtually worthless in terms of DPS. On top of that I don't have any hard numbers on the damage proc. I assumed the DoT has a 25% uptime.
|Ashen Band of Endless Destruction||Ashen Verdict Exalted||319.8||218.9|
|Ring of Rapid Ascent||Gunship - 25||218.1||218.1|
|Ring of Maddening Whispers||Deathwhisper - 25||199.2||199.2|
|Band of Deplorable Violence||Anubarak 25 - H||198.5||198.5|
|Memory of Malygos||Sindragosa - 25||197||197|
|Cerise Coiled Ring||Blood Princes - 10||196.1||196.1|
|Ashen Band of Unmatched Destruction||Ashen Verdict Revered||294.3||195.4|
|Loop of the Endless Labyrinth||Marrowgar - 25||283.3||194.2|
|Runed Signet of the Kirin Tor||10,750 Gold||184.5||184.5|
|Valanar's Other Signet Ring||Blood princes - 25||261.4||170.3|
|Band of Deplorable Violence||Anubarak 25||167.9||167.9|
|Polished Dragonslayer's Signet||Onyxia Head||163.7||163.7|
|Ashen Band of Greater Destruction||Ashen Verdict Honored||259.3||160.4|
|Firestorm Ring||Jaraxxus 10 - H||267.4||156.6|
|Band of the Invoker||35 EoT||155.6||155.6|
|Conductive Seal||Mimiron25 H||151.9||151.9|
|Ashen Band of Destruction||Ashen Verdict Friendly||241.7||148.8|
|Signet of Soft Lament||Yogg10 H||144.1||144.1|
|Glowing Ring of Reclamation||Flame Leviathan25||137.9||137.9|
|Shimmering Seal||Flame Leviathan10||209.3||126.2|
|Firestorm Ring||Jaraxxus 10||225||126.1|
|Lady Maye's Sapphire Ring||Iron Council10||120||120|
|Ring of the Vacant Eye||General Vezax25||189.6||106.5|
|Emerald Signet Ring||Kologarn10||171||103.7|
|Signet of the Malevolent||Gothik10||174.1||77.2|
I feel like half of this choice was made for us with the introduction of the Rep rings. It sucks to some extent because I hate having to pick up Hit or Mp5, but it is also clear that these rings are pretty awesome. They have a gem socket, an awesome proc, and they are relatively easy to get.
For the second ring it’s pretty clear that the Ring of Rapid Ascent is the best choice. It’s the only ring without Spirit or Hit rating on it.
|Shadow Silk Spindle||Blood Princes - 25||211||211|
|Chalice of Searing Light||Twin Valkyrs 25 - H||188.4||188.4|
|Sundial of Eternal Dusk||Sindragosa - 25||185.7||185.7|
|Symbol of Transgression||Jaraxxus 25 - H||282||169.2|
|Chalice of Searing Light||Twin Valkyrs 25||166.9||166.9|
|Shriveled Heart||Halls Chest - H 5man||156.8||156.8|
|Scourgelord's Baton||Deathwhisper - 10||266.8||154|
|Chalice of Benedictus||Twin Valkyrs 10 - H||238.8||153.7|
|Symbol of Transgression||Jaraxxus 25||249||150.1|
|Chalice of Benedictus||Twin Valkyrs 10||209.9||136.7|
|Antediluvian Cornerstone Grimoire||Onyxia25||116.9||116.9|
|Leviathan Fueling Manual||Flame Leviathan25||188.7||107.5|
|Antique Cornerstone Grimoire||Onyxia10||100.3||100.3|
|Ward of the Violet Citadel||25 EoH||166.7||91.6|
|Watchful Eye||Steelbreaker10 H||141.7||86.3|
I am offically sold on the Nibelung staff, but who knows what will drop off of Arthas. However, if you are sticking with a MH/OH combo, the Shadow Silk Spindle is clearly the best option since it is the only off hand that follows the Crit, Haste, Spell Power design.
|Frozen Bonespike||Marrowgar -25||832.3||832.3|
|Misery's End||Anubarak 25 - H||795.9||795.9|
|Blade of Terasque||Northrend Beasts 25 - H||869.6||768.7|
|Hammer of Purified Flame||5man Quests||752.9||752.9|
|Heartcrusher||Tribute Chest 10 - H||728.2||728.2|
|Blade of the Silver Disciple||Faction Champs 10 - H||725.5||725.5|
|Bleak Coldarra Carver||Sindragosa - 10||837.7||717|
|Val'anyr, Hammer of Ancient Kings||Quest - Ulduar25||707.8||707.8|
|Misery's End||Anubarak 25||704.6||704.6|
|Blade of Terasque||Northrend Beasts 25||764.1||675.1|
|Blade of the Silver Disciple||Faction Champs 10||645.1||645.1|
|Starshard Edge||Algalon or Mimiron H25||716||638.9|
|Aesuga, Hand of the Ardent Champion||General Vezax10||635.8||635.8|
|Chilled Heart of the Glacier||Halls Chest 5man||608.5||553.1|
|Plasma Foil||XT-002 Deconstructor10||547||547|
|Dagger of Lunar purity||25 Champion's Seals||451.9||451.9|
The Frozen Bonespike is currently the only option for a Main Hand out of ICC, but weapons tend to drop off the last boss in an instance. I wouldn’t be surprised if Arthas dropped a good one.
Two Handed Weapon:
|Nibelung||Deathwhisper - 25||1094.2||1094.2|
|Dying Light||Queen Lanathel - 25||969.5||969.5|
|Clemency||Tribute Chest 25 - H||951.3||951.3|
|Cold Convergence||Anubarak 10 - H||874.2||874.2|
|Enlightenment||Twin Valkyrs 10 - H||839.1||839.1|
|Mag'hari Chieftain's Staff||Saurfang - 10||833.5||833.5|
|Staff of Endless Winter||Hodir25 H||803||803|
|Sister Svalna's Aether Staff||Valithria - 10||1071.8||802.8|
|Abracadaver||Festergut - 10||1001.6||801.8|
|Enlightenment||Twin Valkyrs 10||786||786|
|Cold Convergence||Anubarak 10||763.8||763.8|
|Icecore Staff||Hodir10 H||735.9||735.9|
|Unspeakable Secret||Garfrost 5man||673.2||673.2|
|Engraved Gargoyle Femur||Tyrannus - H 5man||885.8||662.2|
|Blood Boil Lancet||Devourer 5man||644.8||644.8|
|Pillar of Fortitude||Ulduar Zone Drop10||614.8||614.8|
After seeing some testing done by Hamlet and Qaerughfo on the EJ forums, and seeing the buffs Blizzard has implemented, I am offically sold on the Nibelung. The proc actually seems to be quite good for moonkin. It does have a 1% proc rate but the testing done on the EJ forums shows that some spells have multiple chance to proc the Val'kyr due to the Glyph of Starfire and Earth and Moon.
At this point you should only be thinking about two idols. The [Idol of Lunar Eclipse] is the best and it is purchasable with Emblems of Frost. However, you may be saving your Emblems for your Tier Set or another item. In such a case you should at least have the [Idol of Lunar Fury]. It is purchase able with Emblems of Triumph. Since it is incredibly easy to farm EoTs at the moment, using anything less then the Idol of Lunar Fury is pretty stupid.
Once again, as you can see there are a lot of links and values in this post. It is quite possible that some of them are incorrect. If you find an incorrect link or a valuation just doesn't look right, please let me know so that I can correct it.