Update: I updated the list to include my new valuation of Haste Rating.
Update2: Made some changes to my BiS selections because Vaenor on Moonrunner pointed out a better way to pickup the Spell Hit I needed.
Update3: Onyxia's Loot has been added.
Here is part 2 to the gear ranking. This post focuses on the jewelry and weapons available to moonkin. Please refer to part 1 to see how the list was built.
Edit: This is the Alliance Version of the List. You can find the Horde Version here.
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| Cloak of Displacement | Faction Champs 25 - H | 278.2 | 188.9 |
| *Jaina's Radiance | Tribute Chest 25 - H | 260.6 | 260.6 |
| Cloak of Displacement | Faction Champs 25 | 244.6 | 153.5 |
| Bolvar's Devotion | Tribute Chest 25 - H | 231.6 | 231.6 |
| Drape of Bitter Incantation | Tribute Chest 10 - H | 230.2 | 230.2 |
| Drape of Mortal Downfall | Iron Council25 H | 229 | 154.3 |
| Drape of the Messenger | Algalon10 | 208.4 | 151.9 |
| Shawl of Fervent Crusader | Tribute Chest 10 - H | 204.7 | 204.7 |
| Shawl of the Refreshing Winds | Northrend Beasts 25 - H | 201.6 | 201.6 |
| Kurisu's Indecision | Eadric's Cache - H | 193.1 | 113 |
| Flowing Sapphiron Drape | Onyxia25 | 178.8 | 178.8 |
| Shawl of the Refreshing Winds | Northrend Beasts 25 | 170.3 | 170.3 |
| Pennant Cloak | Sartharion25 H | 164.1 | 164.1 |
| Sunglimmer Cloak | Algalon25 H | 158 | 158 |
| Fluttering Sapphiron Drape | Onyxia10 | 156.5 | 156.5 |
| Asimov's Drape | Mimiron25 | 143.6 | 143.6 |
| Cape of the Unworthy Wizard | Kel'Thuzad25 | 140.5 | 140.5 |
| Dark Shroud of the Scourge | Noth10 | 138.6 | 87.6 |
| Sunglimmer Drape | Algalon25 H | 138.4 | 138.4 |
| Drape of the Spellweaver | Ulduar10 | 138.1 | 138.1 |
| Shawl of Haunted Memories | Yogg-Saron25 | 137.5 | 137.5 |
| Deathchill Cloak | Crafted | 135.9 | 135.9 |
| Shroud of Luminosity | Grobbulus, Heigan, Gothik, Maexxna25 | 135.2 | 135.2 |
| Disquise of the Kumiho | Emblem of Valor | 126.4 | 126.4 |
| Shawl of the Old Maid | Grobbulus, Heigan, Gothik, Maexxna25 | 125.3 | 125.3 |
| Shroud of the Citadel | Sapphiron10 | 122.9 | 122.9 |
| Cloak of the Dormant Blaze | Ulduar10 | 104 | 104 |
The Tribute Run Cloaks are awesome, but lets face it. They are not going to be easy to get. Blizzard hasn't been great about getting us many good cloak options in the past couple of patches, but the ones that are there are good sources of Hit. Therefore you you want to switch some stuff around this is a great place to do it.
Neck:
| Darkbane Pendant | Twin Valkyrs 10 - H | 237.9 | 161.4 |
| Pendant of Fiery Havoc | Flame Leviathan25 H | 237.9 | 154.1 |
| *Wail of the Val'kyr | Twin Valkyrs 25 - H | 222.1 | 222.1 |
| Darkbane Pendant | Twin Valkyrs 10 | 208.4 | 142.9 |
| Wyrmrest Necklase of Power | Quest - Sapph, Malygos25 | 199.2 | 139.1 |
| Pendant of the Piercing Glare | Kologarn10 | 194.9 | 111.1 |
| Wail of the Val'kyr | Twin Valkyrs 25 | 189.1 | 189.1 |
| Pendant of Focused Energies | Ulduar Zone Drop25 | 187.1 | 103.3 |
| Chain of the Ancient Wyrm | Quest - Sapph, Malygos10 | 178.8 | 124.1 |
| Pendant of the Shallow Grave | Thorim10 H | 171.9 | 171.9 |
| Chain of Latent Energies | Naxx Zone Drop10 | 163.8 | 101.9 |
| Sapphire Amulet of Renewal | Steelbreaker25 H | 163.3 | 163.3 |
| Brilliant Hailstone Amulet | Confessor's Cache | 162.8 | 117.3 |
| Watchful Eye | Steelbreaker10 H | 156.8 | 156.8 |
| Circle of Arcane Streams | Sartharion10 | 152 | 95.5 |
| Thunderstorm Amulate | Naxx Zone Drop25 | 146.4 | 95.4 |
| Unblinking Eye | Iron Council25 | 143.7 | 143.7 |
| Cosmic Lights | Sapphiron25 | 143 | 143 |
| Evoker's Charm | 19 EoC | 139.6 | 139.6 |
| Encircling Burnished gold Chains | 25 EoH | 131.5 | 86 |
| Necklace of the Glittering Chamber | Malygos10 | 124.6 | 124.6 |
| Titanium Spellshock Necklace | Crafted | 120.4 | 120.4 |
| Bone-Linked Amulet | Grobbulus10 | 118 | 118 |
| Veiled Amulet of Life | Gothik10 | 112.9 | 112.9 |
There are not a lot of good necks in ToC, and that makes Wail of the Val'kyr an easier choice.
Trinket:
# The value of the Onyxia trinkets is the value of the set divided by 2. If you do not have the set, these trinkets are virtually worthless in terms of DPS. On top of that I don't have any hard numbers on the damage proc. I assumed the DoT has a 25% uptime.
As usual, I urge you to use this trinket ranking with a little bit of skepticism. Most of the new trinkets haven’t been tested to my knowledge and how their procs work is unknown. In most cases I assumed that they would work in a similar manner to the trinkets we had in the 3.0 version of WoW.
That said, when it comes to the best trinkets available the debate is very one sided. Both versions of the Reign of Unliving are clearly the best choices available. The best thing is, it looks like you can equip both of the at the same time.
Finally, I want to make one little comment about hit trinkets. I generally don’t recommend using hit trinkets after early raiding. The reason is they just have way to much hit on them. A single trinket can provide 45% of the total hit rating you need. Unfortunately that makes you very inflexible and forces you to skip some other awesome trinkets that provide a ton of Spell Power, Crit rating or Haste rating.
Rings:
| Firestorm Ring | Jaraxxus 10 - H | 260 | 158 |
| Firestorm Ring | Jaraxxus 10 | 218.5 | 127.4 |
| Frozen Loop | Hodir25 | 206 | 122.2 |
| Shimmering Seal | Flame Leviathan10 | 203.1 | 126.6 |
| *Band of Deplorable Violence | Anubarak 25 - H | 200.7 | 200.7 |
| Sinner's Confession | Confessor's Cache - H | 194.4 | 114.2 |
| Ring of the Vacant Eye | General Vezax25 | 183.4 | 106.9 |
| *Nebula Band | Algalon10 | 177.1 | 177.1 |
| Signet of the Malevolent | Gothik10 | 176.1 | 86.8 |
| Band of the Invoker | 35 EoT | 170.3 | 170.3 |
| Polished Dragonslayer's Signet | Onyxia Head | 165.5 | 165.5 |
| Band of Deplorable Violence | Anubarak 25 | 169.8 | 169.8 |
| Conductive Seal | Mimiron25 H | 168 | 168 |
| Emerald Signet Ring | Kologarn10 | 166 | 104.1 |
| Signet of Manifested Pain | Kel'Thuzad25 | 159.4 | 159.4 |
| Etched Signet of the Kirin Tor | Vendor | 158.8 | 158.8 |
| Pyrelight Circle | Ignis25 | 156.6 | 156.6 |
| Signet of Soft Lament | Yogg10 H | 145.3 | 145.3 |
| Inscribed Signet of the Kirin Tor | 9750 gold | 141.5 | 141.5 |
| Glowing Ring of Reclamation | Flame Leviathan25 | 139.4 | 139.4 |
| Lady Maye's Sapphire Ring | Iron Council10 | 129.5 | 129.5 |
| Band of Channeled Magic | 25 EoV | 127.6 | 127.6 |
| Lost Jewel | Various Naxx Bosses25 | 125.8 | 125.8 |
| Signet of the Kirin Tor | 8500 gold | 123.9 | 123.9 |
| Titanium spellshock Ring | Crafted | 123.4 | 123.4 |
| Ring of the Fated | Noth10 | 119.1 | 119.1 |
| Ring of Holy cleansing | Heigan10 | 113.7 | 113.7 |
| Band of Guile | Mal'Ganis5 | 113.7 | 113.7 |
| Annhylde's Ring | Ingvar5 | 112.5 | 112.5 |
| Timeworn Silken Band | Maexxna10 | 112.1 | 112.1 |
| Signet of Hopeful Light | Reputation - Argent Crusade | 107.8 | 107.8 |
Originally I would have equipped both versions of the Band of Deplorable Violence, but my revaluation of haste really helped the Nebula Band. You will also notice that the Emblem ring is very highly rated, but I would hold off picking it up until you have all of the tier piece you need.
Off Hand:
| Symbol of Transgression | Jaraxxus 25 - H | 275 | 171.2 |
| Chalice of Benedictus | Twin Valkyrs 10 - H | 247.3 | 168.9 |
| Symbol of Transgression | Jaraxxus 25 | 242.9 | 151.9 |
| Cosmos | Algalon25 | 231.5 | 138.6 |
| Chalice of Benedictus | Twin Valkyrs 10 | 217.6 | 150.2 |
| *Chalice of Searing Light | Twin Valkyrs 25 - H | 190.4 | 190.4 |
| Leviathan Fueling Manual | Flame Leviathan25 | 182.6 | 107.9 |
| Surplus Limb | Patchwerk25 | 172.3 | 114 |
| Chalice of Searing Light | Twin Valkyrs 25 | 168.7 | 168.7 |
| Ward of the Violet Citadel | 25 EoH | 161.7 | 92.5 |
| Ironmender | Kologarn25 | 137.7 | 137.7 |
| Watchful Eye | Steelbreaker10 H | 137.6 | 86.6 |
| Igniter Rod | Ignis10 | 131.3 | 131.3 |
| Accursed Spine | Noth25 | 126.2 | 126.2 |
| Matriarch's Spawn | Maexxna25 | 123.3 | 123.3 |
| Antediluvian Cornerstone Grimoire | Onyxia25 | 117.5 | 117.5 |
| Handbook of Obscure Remedies | 25 EoH | 106.9 | 106.9 |
| Antique Cornerstone Grimoire | Onyxia10 | 100.8 | 100.8 |
I'm back to favoring a Main Hand/Off Hand combo and the Symbol of Transgression is the best Off Hand if you can use the hit. The two Onyxia offhand are a little better then what I've listed here due to the skeleton. Unfortunately I have no way to evaluate the DPS of the Skeleton. That said, I doubt it will be good enough to make these offhands that good in terms of DPS.
Main Hand:
| Blade of Terasque | Northrend Beasts 25 - H | 878.4 | 785.5 |
| *Misery's End | Anubarak 25 - H | 816.3 | 816.3 |
| Blade of Terasque | Northrend Beasts 25 | 774 | 692.1 |
| Heartcrusher | Tribute Chest 10 - H | 745 | 745 |
| Blade of the Silver Disciple | Faction Champs 10 - H | 743.5 | 743.5 |
| Val'anyr, Hammer of Ancient Kings | Quest - Ulduar25 | 723.4 | 723.4 |
| Misery's End | Anubarak 25 | 722.6 | 722.6 |
| Starshard Edge | Algalon or Mimiron H25 | 710.3 | 639.3 |
| Blade of the Silver Disciple | Faction Champs 10 | 661.2 | 661.2 |
| Aesuga, Hand of the Ardent Champion | General Vezax10 | 643.9 | 643.9 |
| Soulscribe | Yogg25 | 631.1 | 631.1 |
| Spectral Kris | Black Knight - H | 568.1 | 568.1 |
| Haunting Call | Naxx Zone Drop25 | 567.5 | 485.5 |
| Stormtip | Iron Council10 | 556 | 556 |
| Plasma Foil | XT-002 Deconstructor10 | 548.3 | 548.3 |
| The Soulblade | Kel'Thuzad10 | 547.8 | 493.1 |
| Wraith Strike | Maexxna25 | 537.5 | 537.5 |
| Hammer of the Astral Plane | Kel'Thuzad10 | 537.2 | 537.2 |
| The Impossible Dream | Loatheb25 | 522.3 | 522.3 |
| Ice Spire Scepter | Malygos10 | 516 | 516 |
| Titansteel Spellblade | Crafted | 504.1 | 449.5 |
| Titansteel Guardian | Crafted | 479.7 | 479.7 |
| Blade of Dormant Memories | Patchwerk10 | 476.9 | 476.9 |
| Dagger of Lunar purity | 25 Champion's Seals | 460.8 | 460.8 |
Again, I am back to favoring MH/OH combos and this is the best Main hand without Hit rating
Two Handed Weapon:
| Clemency | Tribute Chest 25 - H | 956.1 | 956.1 |
| Enlightenment | Twin Valkyrs 10 - H | 933.6 | 933.6 |
| Cold Convergence | Anubarak 10 - H | 914.4 | 914.4 |
| Intensity | Ignis25 | 865 | 646.4 |
| Enlightenment | Twin Valkyrs 10 | 822.3 | 822.3 |
| Staff of Endless Winter | Hodir25 H | 806.7 | 806.7 |
| Cold Convergence | Anubarak 10 | 800.3 | 800.3 |
| Unraveling Reach | Freya10 | 775 | 567.4 |
| Greatstaff of the Nexus | Malygos10 | 768.4 | 595.4 |
| Icecore Staff | Hodir10 H | 763.3 | 763.3 |
| The Lifebinder | Freya25 | 742.3 | 742.3 |
| Rapture | Iron Council25 | 720.7 | 720.7 |
| Devotion | Yogg10 | 644.8 | 644.8 |
| Pillar of Fortitude | Ulduar Zone Drop10 | 617.1 | 617.1 |
| Damnation | Four Horsemen25 | 614 | 614 |
| Staff of Restraint | Sartharion25 | 604.6 | 604.6 |
| Sulfur Stave | Loatheb10 | 600.2 | 492.7 |
| Staff of Draconic Combat | Eregos5 | 557.8 | 557.8 |
I am back to favoring MH/OH combos but Staves are still a viable option since Blizzard now seems to be itemizing them better.
Relic/Idol:
Currently the best Moonkin idol in game is the [Idol of Lunar Fury]. The others don't even come close, so buy it as soon as you can. If you can't get your hands on that one right a way the [Idol of the Shooting Star] is your best bet. It is of a higher ilevel then the [Idol of Steadfast Renewal] and you get a little more damage from using it. The last idol you will see is [Idol of Crying Wind]. It is not a good option in my opinion. The problem is that you will not be using IS enough to really make use of the idol. There may be some situations where it is better then the SF or Wrath idol but it will never beat the Idol of Lunar Fury.
I also don't recommend using any of the idols from TBC. All of the WotLK idols currently available will be purchaseable with Emblems in 3.2 and are much better then anything we found in Outland.
22 comments:
Much love to ya Graylo! The gear listings helped me go thru gear and make good choices or help others with those choices. So thank you for all the time you put into them.
I did notice on several of them they are not sorted by DPS Stat Rank on some of them. They kinda just go up and down. Other than that it looks good to me.
Thank you again for all the hard work you put into this.
I don’t even know what half of theses bosses are. You’re too elite. I am still in the Conqueror’s Nightsong garb.
Twin Valkyrs, Jaraxxus, Anubararak, Tribute Chest, Northrend Beasts, Faction Champs, are these all in the ToC Raids?
I got to get my self in there!
Great job!
You might want to update the kirin ring for the upgraded version (etched)
Nice list, as always, Graylo.
One question though, on the leg's, you've got the heroic version of the Anub-25 leather legs as a 306.2 equiv value, while the normal version as 315.9. I'm kind of wandering what you're reasoning here was, or if this was maybe a typo?
Ok so I was looking over your gearlist and I'm sitting here going "Why can't I find any of this gear on my atlas loot?" and then it dawns on me that you have only posted the Alliance gear. If it wouldn't be took much of a hastle, could you post the Horde equivelant of all the gear posted here as I would imagine I'm not the only Horde moonkin who follows your site and uses you as a model for where I should be at. Thank you in advance.
Bengali - Magtheridon US
I use your gear rankings whenever we drop a boss. In the past I've had to weed-out cloth from leather, and this does get cumbersome. Is there a way you can signify cloth vs leather in your gear list?
Although some cloth is better than leather for raiding, it's going to be a long time before moonkins will get access to bid on cloth (at least in my guild).
Great list. I think you may want to reevaluate the value of on-use haste bonuses.
With trinkets such as the Scale of Fates i can use the trinket at the start of a lunar eclipse, where haste is extremely useful.
thanks for putting these lists up! i'm a raiding moonkin and i find these lists indispensable in deciding how i gear up.
i do appreciate how hard it is to appraise the value of trinkets, but some of them are not very well estimated imo - reign of the unliving (normal) adds 150sp, so the red column should at least be 150..
if one estimates the time for the flames to proc at an avg of 15 secs, 1.9k / 15s = 127dps ~= 84sp, assuming 1 sp produces about 1.5dps.
150 + 84 = 234, that makes the trinket as juicy as foth!
(disclaimer: no idea how solid my calculations are, until the item's tested out in live..)
Most of the trinkets either had little information, or un-confirmed information, so it was hard for me to input direct values into them. Some i was able to estimate within a reasonable value, but for others, like Reign of the Unliving, where I was unsure, I merely put down the obvious and basic value.
As more information comes out, I'm sure Graylo will update values for most things that are questionable, especially in the trinkets dept.
I like the lists but being a rather well endowed moonkin myself I think you place a little too much emphasis on crit over haste. As it is with the new idol and elclipse up 99% of the time crits just happen. Now I'm not saying get rid of all crit or anything, but Haste seriously scales up in value the higher crit you have, and in my opinion passes it.
15 seconds of starfires, ~16k per hit, I want to get as many in as I can. Right now with lag I can manage about 6-7 starfires. This does make wrath a little overclocked, but numbers in the past has even shown that starfire just scales better.
Maybe when the day comes when i max out haste for starfire I'll fill crit more, but as it is... give me haste over crit anyday.
@Pucc - Fixed
@biao - added
@Tradyk - Fixed
@Anon2
I completely agree that when used correctly the Scale of Fates is more valueable then I've indicated. However, most arguements I've seen that support it as a better trinket seem to only look at the positive.
For SoF to be better then I've indicated you have to use it while your casting SF, which means you ahve to use it at the begining of a Lunar Eclipse. Unfortunately your not going to get one of those every 2 minutes, and due to fight mechanics and such it could take as long as 3 minutes between procs. This delay significantly decreases the trinkets value.
This also goes back to my comment that trinkets are very hard to value, and they require some judgement from the player.
@Randomchicken
You are correct. For some reason I ignored the SP bonus when I updated the value from Cowtarus. I will update it soon. The heroic version is likely BiS.
@Whisperdoom
My numbers are derived from math and models I've created. I am quite confident in them.
First of all Eclipse is not up 99% of the time. The best I've seen is around 80% and it is lower for most people. On top of that The value of crit has very little to do with eclipse. In fact, Eclipse devalues Crit to some extent due to the high crit chance during Lunar eclipse.
Second, if you have over 400 haste rating and a decently high crit chance Haste has very little impact on your Wrath and instant casts. Since, these spells make up over half your rotation that is a lot of DPS that ignores a specific stat. Crit rating us used by a much higher percentage of your rotation, and will be used even more with 2T9.
Just a quick confirmation -
Did you miss out the Torch of Holy Fire or has it completely fallen off the list?
@Adrian
To save space, I've drop items that have MP5 since it sucks as a stat. Therefore, the ToHF was dropped. It may have been BiS during T7 but it sucks now. There are a lot of easy to get items from Ulduar.
@Other Commentors
Please remember to be polite when commenting. Especially when addressing other commentors. I don't have a problem with you guys answering the questions for me. I just want it done nicely.
thanks for updating the values - but never expected how high reign of the unliving zoomed up the list of trinkets :P
really appreciate all the hard work cowtarus and you have done! /salute.
Thanks a lot for putting up this impressive list. However, i noticed you skipped MP5 main hands and would've been a bit helpul to see the current position of Pulse Baton in your list. Im still using it after loosing 2 times the rolls for Blade of Tarasque..:/
I'm currently using mace of the earthborn chieftain which isn't even on the list (it have mp/5 so would be considered a healing mace) but beats soulscribe due 2 it's awesomme sp and red socket. Drops from hc anub 10man
Hey awesome post by the way. I sent you a mail and im gonna type it here as well. I think you havnt updated just to the part of Ony loots. Some of the gear there is very good and its very easy to get =D. If you can do it, it would be awesome and helpfull to many others. Thx for this guide
BiS List:
I am going to make a 2nd BiS list since the set bonus for 4 pcs H-T9 is only a couple % DPS more, while other classes/specs will gain much more from them. Also getting 4 piece T9.5 for a Balance druid is highly unlikely. If the trophies become more readily available in the future, I may revisit this stance.
This set assumes you do not yet have H-Anub down/ on farm so his loot table is not yet available.
This list is for Alliance only. (<3 Heroic Presence)
Head: Malfurion's Cover of Triumph
Neck: Wail of the Val'kyr (H)
Shoulders: Conqueror's Nightsong Mantle (25M Ulduar)
Cloak: Drape of the Sunreavers (10M Tribute to Insanity)
Chest: Malfurion's Vestments of Triumph
Bracers: Bindings of Dark Essence (H)
Hands: Conqueror's Nightsong Gloves (25M Ulduar)
Belt: Cord of Biting Cold (H)
Legs: Legwraps of the Awakening
Boots: Boots of the Mourning Widow (H)
Ring #1: Band of Deplorable Violence
Ring #2: Nebula Band (10M Algalon)
Trinket #1: Reign of the Unliving
Trinket #2: Flare of the Heavens
Weapon: Blade of Tarasque (H)
OH:Chalice of Searing Light (H)
2H: Enlightnement (H)
A few comments on the weapon choices:
(1) Don't take a chalice of searing light over a healer.
(2) If you take the 2H option you are @ hit cap (240, so 4 over)
(3) If you take the MH/OH combo you can swap out either your belt or bracers for a higher DPS item on the list.
Great Job on this list, but i have a noob question @.@
What column i have to consider, the red or black. (i have all the caps)
Pls, help me. rofl
@lenwë: If you are hit capped the red numbers are the ones you have to follow.
ty, and continue to give us this awesome posts^^
Thanks for all the hard work! Makes my pew pewing ALOT easier!
I could use some help on Trinket and Ring slot selections. My haste is current;y @ 435 and I'm over hit (335). One of my trinkets is the Talisman of Volatile Power and I don't feel like I'm getting much out of the Use. I do have Living Flame and Dying Curse but I feel that I'd be adding more to my useless over hit-cappedness. Suggestions???
Oriona of Suramar
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